The news that Ridley Scott is returning to the Alien franchise should be cool. Despite a few weak sequels and the generally terrible Alien Vs. Predator movies, the franchise has plenty of life in it, and Scott's original Alien remains one of the best sci-fi/horror films ever made. Unfortunately, Scott has signed on to direct a prequel to his masterpiece, which I couldn't give less of a shit about. Let me quote /Film for why:
The film will be a direct prequel to Scott's original 1979 film. This leads me to believe that the film will tell the story of the crew of the empty ship that is discovered in the first film. In a 2002 interview, Scott wanted to return "to where the alien creatures were first found and explain how they were created."And let me quote Filmdrunk to explain why this is a shitty idea:
You know what are super cool? Sharks. You know what's not that interesting? The story of how sharks were created. ... Somehow Ridley Scott went from being the guy who turned down both Alien sequels to the guy who'll make prequels, movies about Monopoly - whatever studio execs want.Let me tell you what this movie will be -- an alien stalking that first spaceship, or, basically, a remake of the original Alien except everybody dies and it'll saddled with an incredibly lame origin story that makes the whole franchise less interesting. No thank you, Ridley. Why don't you just go ahead and work on a prequel to your Monopoly film instead. Tell us how Uncle Moneybags met the dog and thimble.
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violence Jack said:
Filmdrunk said: "Somehow Ridley Scott went from being the guy who turned down both Alien sequels to the guy who'll make prequels...."
Really? I'm not totally sure, but I heard it differently. I heard that after Alien 3, Ridley told the studio that he'd be will to do a sequel if they could get Cameron to do one too. Something like, "I'll do Alien 4, if you can get Cameron to do Alien 5" Or was it vice versa?
Anyways, after Alien:Resurrection came out, I was a bit crushed to know that the studios couldn't get that awesome one-two combo to go. Too bad.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:19:59 PM
EVula said:
Yeah, as much as I want to see a new Alien movie (and maybe move away from the dripping-with-saliva aliens), a prequel? Like you said, everyone's going to have to die, which will upset the non-hardcore fans that will want a plucky survivor. Bummer.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:26:33 PM
dbowden said:
bah, wish Scott would go ahead and make the Forever War first.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:26:54 PM
Mr Wesley said:
Why would anyone want to know the origin of the Aliens? I don't want to know if they came from some failed "Plan 9 From Outer Space" test tube screw up. The only thing you need to know is that they bleed acid and will fuck your day up.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:30:09 PM
Burn said:
Ok so I know Hollywood is prequel happy,but I think we are missing a few interesting points. The "Space Jockey" is the 1st to come to mind. (if you don't know what the "space Jockey" is you're a jack ass and not an Alien fan)
Another is that Ridley Scott is set to direct. He directed the film that made most people shit their pants when they 1st saw it in the 70's he isn't some hack like Michael Bay or MCG ruining a franchise this is the original visionary getting to expand the lore of the franchise and most certainly has tons of respect to said lore.
I for one am excited to revisit this piece of Scifi history.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:40:30 PM
Nick said:
Why does it have to be a prequel? I'm so sick of the prequel/rebooting trend. Can't they figure out ways to progress a story FORWARD instead of having to go back all the time with all these franchises? But I do like Ridley Scott as a director, so maybe there's hope.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:42:00 PM
MattK said:
Y'know, with the image of the busted out chest of the giant alien (not THE Alien, but the other alien...great, now it's fuckin' confusing!), methinks that the prequel will end much like the ending of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre prequel: the hero thinking he's gotten away, only for the killer to make the final scare. Sure, replace "chainsaw bursting through chest and crashing the car" with an actual chest burster, but still, the ending sounds the same.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 03:50:54 PM
False Moustache said:
Come on, guys, it can't be that bad! The last time a director returned to do a prequel of a sci-fi series was, well, George Lucas. So never mind.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 04:00:54 PM
sal said:
IDK...could be good. Better SW EP1 - fail at least.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 04:13:25 PM
Bookfisher said:
I am little optimistic about this, because this logically will mean a cast entirely of big gothic aliens and feisty tongue biting aliens, and most likely an unconventional ending. I cant envision how this movie will be, and that might be good. The ingredients to this movie might be counterintuitive, but the same goes for cheese.
That being said if Megan Fox signs on I will drop it like a flamming turd
Posted 07/31/2009 at 04:25:03 PM
EVula said:
@Nick - I agree that the prequel/reboot thing is being done to death. It makes sense when you've got so much material (from many different creative heads) to sort thru that you're tied down in what you can do (such as Batman, James Bond, and Star Trek), but this does seem to be somewhat arbitrary.
If it deals with the Space Jockey, though, I'll be happy.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 04:26:40 PM
Templar said:
Y'know, with the image of the busted out chest of the giant alien (not THE Alien, but the other alien...great, now it's fuckin' confusing!), methinks that the prequel will end much like the ending of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre prequel: the hero thinking he's gotten away, only for the killer to make the final scare. Sure, replace "chainsaw bursting through chest and crashing the car" with an actual chest burster, but still, the ending sounds the same.
How the heck would that work? The Space Jockey is far too large to have been succesfully attacked by a facehugger, burst chest notwithstanding.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 04:40:10 PM
Photoboy said:
Yet more bloody prequels. I hate prequels. The novelty was there with Star Wars but now I'm totally sick of them because nothing amazing can happen. I'm completely uninterested in the Star Wars TV series because it's set between III and IV. What happens in that time period other than Obi-Wan transforming into Alec Guiness and taking an unhealthy interest in a young boy?
I don't want the Space Jockey explained, the mystery has stood for over 20 years now and they won't be able to come up with a satisfying explanation for what happened with him. As for the aliens, haven't they been de-mystified enough by now? They're not scary like they used to be. We've seen the facehuggers, chestbursters, aliens, queens, etc multiple times now. Let's have something new and unexpected, not just the same alien biological process we've been watching for 2 decades. Admittedly this does allow for abominations like the Newborn from Resurrection but at least they tried something new.
As for the story, what surprising things can possibly happen? Earth can't get overrun, the Aliens can't be wiped out for good, no-one on Earth can know about them, someone being an android won't be a shock and blowing the alien out of an airlock will be an homage too far.
I'm excited they've got Ridley Scott on board, because there's a much better chance of this not being derivative and shallow. But straightjacketing the film into being a prequel is a very bad start.
My personal dream Alien film would be a Ridley/Cameron joint venture that is a sequel to Alien and Aliens and ignores the rest of the shit Fox has crapped out in the intervening years. It'll never happen though.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 04:52:05 PM
HUSS said:
They should get Dan O'Bannon to write the script imo.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 05:08:05 PM
greywulf said:
Y'know..... what would be clever is if the Alien in the movie is the Alien/Predator hybrid put into cryosleep by the Predators on their ship and jettisoned into space, only to be discovered a couple of hundred years later. This would bring things full circle in a geeky kinda way.
Just a thought.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 05:22:01 PM
Zachy Legend said:
First off, I HATE to agree with /film....but I think that a prequel explaining the Aliens (Unless its a Super GAY Story) origin, especially by Ridley Scott would be amazing!!
I think your opinion is valid just cuz of all the waste we've seen in the franchise, But with Scott at the helm, I think they will make a genre that has become a popcorn flick into a dark blockbuster,
Check out Nerdbastards.com for similar taste in geekdom.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 05:42:04 PM
jedieb said:
I don't care if it's a prequel as long as it's a good movie. Having Scott at the helm is a big step in that direction. Every single Aliens sequel has gone forward and only the second one was a good film. The main reason for that was Cameron. The important news here is that Scott is returning, who care whether they're going forward or backward, the director and the story are all that matter.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 05:47:32 PM
S Jacka said:
It's like one of my favorite Patton Oswalt jokes
"I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHERE THE STUFF I LOVE COMES FROM! I JUST LOVE THE STUFF I LOVE! Hey, do you love Angelina Jolie? Does she give you a big boner? Well then here's Jon Voight's ballsack! That's right! The sweaty, pink ballsack she swam out of. Now jerk off to that, you lucky so and so!"
Good luck though Ridley
Posted 07/31/2009 at 07:54:51 PM
Zac said:
@S Jacka I was just about to say that I'd like to start a movement wherein all unnecessary prequels are commonly referred to as Jon Voight's Ballsack.
RIDLEY SCOTT TO DIRECT JON VOIGHT'S BALLSACK
Posted 07/31/2009 at 08:19:39 PM
LBD "Nytetrayn" said:
...I thought it was Uncle Pennybags for Monopoly?
Posted 07/31/2009 at 09:21:05 PM
martyemerson said:
have y'all not read the books?
They did the backstory in the books and it was pretty good.
Posted 07/31/2009 at 09:33:08 PM
Jason said:
As popular as those things are I'm surprised no one's interested in a movie where the aliens win.
Posted 08/01/2009 at 09:20:19 AM
Bravo said:
A movie with no humans won't make it past studio heads, especially after Alien vs. Predator series under performed. That leaves another crew finding the derelict before the Nostromo does (and all dying), which is just repetative.
Posted 08/01/2009 at 12:59:49 PM
Imperial said:
The first time I couldn't disagree with you more.
Posted 08/01/2009 at 02:21:11 PM
Capsulesn'Coffee said:
What are you guys bitching about? RIDLEY FUCKING SCOTT is directing another Alien movie, what more could a Alien fan ask for, but I guess you would prefer to have another Alien Sequel or AVP 3 directed by some hack rather than the guy who created the series in the first place deciding to do a prequel. Also, comparisons to Lucas are inane seeing how Scott has went on to direct Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down ect where Lucas hasn't directed a non Star Wars film since the release of A New Hope.
Posted 08/01/2009 at 02:31:14 PM
JPyke said:
If it's like how Sherry describes it, no humans and everything designed by Giger, it'd be phenominal. I want to see the Alien homeworld (only seen in the comics so far), and I would love to see a crew of Space Jockey's collecting them and ultimately dying.
But as Bravo says, studio's won't make a movie without humans. I mean that's all we really wanted for AVP movies right? Aliens fighting Predators. What do we get? A bunch of crap about humans getting in the middle.
Sooooooooo, what do we have to look forward to? Well Ridley Scott is pretty awesome, so I doubt it will be as terrible as most prequels. However it will have to stray from the established story to some extent. There's a good chance we'll have a Space Jockey, but little chance it'll be the star of the movie. More likely we'll have the Weyland-Yutani (sp?) company inadvertantly coming upon the alien, and somehow tying in the Space Jockey. It'll still be cool, I hope, but I doubt it's really the prequel that Alien fans will want to see. But when does that ever happen anyways?
Posted 08/01/2009 at 03:56:46 PM
Namor said:
You guys need to tone down the hate. This movie is gonna be a whole lot better than Aliens Vs Predator 3 would be. Guaranteed.
Posted 08/01/2009 at 10:42:05 PM
John said:
Why all the sequels? Is it because studios can't come up with any new ideas, so they have to use the original characters before they got killed, eaten, changed, or whatever?
What happened to the mystery of the characters?
Frankly, I didn't need to know that Darth Vader was once a little kid named Jake Lloyd who tried to start a trend with the catchphrase "Wizard!".
I didn't need to know that Kirk and Spock didn't like each other at first and that Kirk was so awesome he got promoted from (non-yet-graduated) cadet to acting first officer to captain of the Enterprise. And for that matter, did anyone really need to know that the Vulcans were jerks to humans while Scott Bakula was captain of the Enterprise?
And go ahead and tell me that this summer's Wolverine movie was a hugely important movie because everyone was clamoring to find out how Wolverine became Wolverine. How long did it take the comics to explain the origins of Wolverine? And when they finally did, didn't that take a little mystery out of the character?
Posted 08/02/2009 at 06:21:43 PM
Dargon said:
I think the concerns are valid, in fact I am a little concerned as well. But I am really happy Scott is coming back, this movie might actually be scary. I also think some you a being a little to limited in the options Scott has at his plate. No humans? I mean, remember Ash knew it was a warning, not a distress beacon. On company orders they went down there. Now you may say well maybe they just wanted find out what was going on, but who is to say they already didn't know exactly what was down there. Also, as a prequel it doesn't have to depict the events immediately preceding the first film. It could depict things that happened years earlier.
The end of the movie could have as a note a ship that has moved off into deep space, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone must die.
I am excited about this movie, but I do recognize people very valid concerns.
Posted 08/02/2009 at 08:13:47 PM
red_gamer said:
Is there anything as disappointing as a SF prequel?
For years my friends and I discussed the origins of stormtroopers. We even wrote a story about one boy's journey from a planet on the fringes of the galaxy to the training halls of Stormtrooper Training Centre #23A to, eventually, his death on Hoth as a Commander of his own platoon.
Who knew that all along Stormtroopers were all a bunch of cloned kiwis with an inability to pronounce the number "six" ("sux"). Lame.
I just hope Ridley doesn't try to explain the origin of the alien in some sucky scientist's lab. Mystery deserves its place in film series. Don't know why there's a need to try to explain it all.
Posted 08/02/2009 at 11:24:31 PM
Chloe Bishop said:
No more prequels Please!! have we learned nothing from star wars?>lovelovelove
Posted 08/02/2009 at 11:31:31 PM
IisAwesomecakes said:
Its a bad idea in my opinion because of serial rapist Tom Rothman, I actually kinda like the idea of a prequel, but a PG13 rated one with the run time of 105 minutes? Not so much
Posted 08/03/2009 at 02:31:55 AM






