I know anyone who was looking forward to Watchmen on DVD or Blu-ray has been effectively looking forward to the obviously forthcoming "Ultimate Cut," the one with Tales from the Black Freighter cut in and the way director Zac Snyder always wanted. Well, Warner Bros. finally announced the Ultimate Cut last night, and I'll be damned if the cover isn't a yellow button with a skull and crossbones and the trademark bloodsplatter. It looks horrible. It's like a pirate parody of Watchmen. It's like a bad joke that Alan Moore would tell while he was dissing the movie, all movies, the comic industry, everything that was every created except his stuff. Jesus, it's horrible.
If you can get over that -- and I'm not saying you should have to -- the junk inside isn't that amazing. One disc is the Ultimate Cut of the movie which clocks in at 215 minutes, one is a digital copy of the
The extras are as follows, courtesy of the Blu-ray Blog:
• The Phenomenon: The Comic that Changed ComicsI know at least some of those were on the original DVDs, and I wouldn't be surprised if all of them were (sigh). This thing drops on November 3rd, but I'm no longer that excited. Also, I'd be shocked if there weren't yet another, even more ultimate-r version with all the cuts of the movie coming down the pike eventually. (Via Blu-Ray Blog)
• Real Super Heroes, Real Vigilantes
• Mechanics: Technologies of a Fantastic World
• Watchmen: Video Journals
• My Chemical Romance Desolation Row
• Under The Hood
• Story Within A Story: The Books of Watchmen
Comments
cummins said:
I'm a huge Watchmen apologist. I bought the Director's Cut, the motion comic and The Black Freighter DVDs. But seriously, this thing can go fuck itself. Having the Black Freighter mixed in just isn't going to be anything but distracting and I don't see myself buying this film again. The Blu-ray of the director's cut seemed genuinely interesting to me, but at this point I can't get into upgrading my format yet again. As for this, I'm going to have to pass.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:41:09 AM
Bill said:
Actually, I think the digital copy is the theatrical version, not the uncut version.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:42:10 AM
cummins said:
Also, digital copies are lame too. I forgot to mention that.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:43:00 AM
Joshie said:
Does the director's cut that's currently out have any of the stuff with the Bernies, and if not, does anyone know if this ultimate version have it?
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:55:22 AM
dchopkins said:
i am seriously so tired of talking about and hearing others talk about this sub-par movie. not Rob, necessarily, but just the fact that there is still crap coming out with the Watchmen brand. i want it to die and not have to hear about it for years.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:56:02 AM
doc_ock_4mugen said:
I expect another version coming in February, with an Alan Moore flipping off the Bird at the movie cover and 5 copies of the motion comic and a Dr. Manhattan dildo.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:56:44 AM
Sorry... disagree said:
The sentence that explains why Topless Robot is wrong about everything is… “But they have no problem making you buy yet another goddamn copy of the crappy Motion Comic. Grr.”
They’re “making you” by what now? Do I have my own problems with the set? Sure. Mainly that this is the “Ultimate Cut” and not the “Ultimate Edition,” which would contain every version of the movie available: Theatrical, Director’s Cut, Director’s Cut w/ Black Freighter and the Motion Comic. Would I prefer all of them would be in this set? Yeah. Are they clearly calling it the “Ultimate Cut” basically telegraphing to the masses there will be an “Ultimate Edition” with all those versions released one day? Yes.
They didn’t make you buy a movie ticket, theatrical DVD, Director’s Cut Blu-Ray, the motion comic or this new "Ultimate Cut" set. You chose to buy those things and everyone knew during the production of the movie that this “Ultimate Cut” set would be released for the holidays. And now before the release of the "Ultimate Cut" we can all tell there will be a more elaborate edition one day. So, if you don't want to buy things twice then wait for that edition in a year or 2. Is it annoying and frustrating? Sure. But is it Warner Bros. right? It's their property. They put up the dough, lost a good amount of it and any smart consumer knows what their next move it.
You can't blame them because you can't wait to add the disc to your collection.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:07:40 AM
Xenos said:
Damn. That is an ugly ugly cover that makes no sense and was obviously made my marketing monkeys who never saw the film.
This is what I waited for? I didn't touch the other DVDs because of this? Meh. I am really sick of these multiple versions. This should have been released as the director's cut along with the theatrical. And I didn't even find the movie -that- great, though I'm also not against it.
Meanwhile, nice little dig on Moore's recent rants with "everything that was every created except his stuff."
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:08:59 AM
LAY said:
So I waited to buy the DVD for basically no reason? Fart.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:17:39 AM
Manwards said:
I recently heard that, due to the copyright, the smiley face logo can't be used for packaging or promotional purposes. That's why the TPB's cover is so zoomed-in on the eye, and why most merchandise substitutes the smiley face for the Doomsday clock. I'm not sure how true it is, but it would make sense.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:19:51 AM
sorry... disagree said:
dchopkins...
I thought I was quite calm. Blunt but calm. You're right that I generalized too much in my statement about being Topless Robot being "wrong about everything." I agree the cover art is horrible and, as stated, I'm underwhelmed with the contents of the set.
However, when Topless Robot compains "so you'll need to keep those original copies if you want those versions" and then also complains they're "making you" rebuy the motion comic. So, where's the logic there? You don't want to rebuy one thing but you also don't want to hang onto your original copies? So, how can Warner Bros. make you happy? If they include the discs they released in June then you have to rebuy them. If they leave them out then you have to keep old editions are your shelf. You can't have it both ways.
We're all comic/blu-ray enthusiasts here so I don't want to call someone out but, really, it's impossible to make some people happy. If you want the "Ultimate Edition" then keep waiting for it. This is clearly advertised as the "Ultimate Cut" meaning it's Snyder's "complete" version of the story. It's not a collection of the film's different versions.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:23:54 AM
ZADL said:
I like the digital copies - My TV is hooked into a Mac Mini running Plex and it is freaking awesome. I've even considered dropping the cable TV and going internet only, since with Hulu, Joost, and Netflix streaming, there really isn't any reason for me to watch live TV like those troglodytes living in the last century.
The only weakness has been the lack of BluRay support in Mac OS X - but that's what the PS3 is for, so it's not that big of a deal.
That said, I do have to chime in and agree that this is not so Ultimate. I'd like theatrical, directors, and pirate cuts please, and leave out the crappy motion-comic. If the theatrical and directors cuts were digital, that'd be fine (sorry luddites). But I can probably live with this set.
Too bad about the crappy box art though.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:24:34 AM
Gunslinger said:
Since I personally care naught about Watchmen this means nothing to me.
However.
THE WHOSE RESPONSIBLE THIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN. WHAT THE FUCK WIKIPEDIA WHAT THE FUCK.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:34:11 AM
longbowhunter said:
ehh...I'll get it. I've managed to pass on all other Watchmen versions so this works for me. WATCHMEN is an odd flick...Snyder did a brilliant job of making it LOOK like the comic,but in all other regards it kind of seems like he missed the point. This version,with the animated Black Freighter segments spliced back in along with the deleted scenes will be an interesting visual experience...but thats about all. And yeah...that cover art sucks big blue balls-bloody smiley or nothing Warners!!!
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:34:43 AM
Turd Ferguson said:
@Sorry...disagree,
Please stop yelling, you're making the other denizens very uncomfortable. Let's all just calm down and watch a movie or something. Like Watchmen! I heard this new Ultimate Cut was coming out soon, that should be something we can all sit down together and watch calmly. No need for all the hysterics. ;p
Posted 09/23/2009 at 11:37:59 AM
Don Snyder said:
Actually, the director's cut that came out months ago is the version Zack Snyder has always meant to show. he said the Ultimate Edition is something the studio is pushing.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 01:35:27 PM
Dave said:
Not sure what the big deal is about including the Black Freighter anyway. I always thought it didn't add much to the comic and was one of those parts that wouldn't be missed too much in a movie version. Not only that, but after watching it, I think the "Black Freighter" looks like a part of "Heavy Metal" that ened up on the cutting room floor.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 03:22:36 PM
The Man With Two Brains... IS RESPONSIBLE THIS said:
They still haven't gotten one cent out of me for this shitty adaptation in any way whatsoever. They're still not going to.
I'll be waiting for the comic-accurate Terry Gilliam-made high-budget TV miniseries that I know will probably never happen.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 03:28:41 PM
Snoodle said:
The only thing that bothers me is that with no Director's Cut option, you can't 'turn Black Freighter off' as it were. In case you really don't feel like watching it spliced in there at the time.
I enjoy the film, but can't help but feel that if someone had given him the money/time/freedom, Snyder would have made a proper 8-hour epic out of this. Still, respect for what he managed on time constraints and interference.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 04:13:24 PM
Jack Dooley said:
I have both versions (sad I know), so this isn't a massive problem for me, but still, that cover is awful, and not much in the special features department.
Well, at least it has a commentary by Synder and Gibbons.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 05:42:06 PM
wingdarkness said:
Let me just say, if it hasn't been said...Black Freighter is about the most unwatchable piece of animation I have ever unclasped thine eyes and preyed upon (I am an anime fan to the nth power though)...So That ain't helping...
As for the rest I have the 8gig bluray Directors Cut and the full comicbook on my CPU, so I'm set brother...
Posted 09/23/2009 at 07:04:41 PM
demoncat said:
this is the way of things for warner is not going to give up trying to get as much more money as it can from watchman and the black freighter mixed with the film is the version that if in theatres would have proably have had the film not crash at the box office.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 07:40:53 PM
Baltimoron said:
Is the Silk Spectre/Night Owl sex scene even creepier in this edition?
This is important.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 08:14:02 PM
Matt M. said:
Did anyone else find the theatrical cut to be superior to the director's cut? I don't know if I felt that way because it truly is better or because the flaws were just more apparent on repeat viewings.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 08:42:46 PM
Ad said:
Just.........give as a set with all 3 cuts, so we can decide which one is best. Don't care about digital copies or crappy music vids.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 10:29:23 PM
gatchamandave said:
...or you could just read the original comic and ignore the movie altogether ? That's what I do, and I find that I even have some money left in my pocket at the end of the month.
Posted 09/24/2009 at 04:55:41 AM
runnerx13 said:
...and I'll be damned if the cover isn't a yellow button with a skull and crossbones and the trademark bloodsplatter.
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I guess since the Smiley is a trademarked image, they weren't able to use it.
Posted 09/24/2009 at 08:33:24 AM
RobP said:
Late to the party, as per usual.
I don't really get why so many people hate on the Watchmen movie. Man with two Brains... even said he wanted a more "accurate" version of the comic to be made, as an 8-hour TV movie. WTF? Admittedly, Terry Gilliam would be an interesting choice to direct, but the version he was looking at wasn't a miniseries or anything, it was a craptacular Avengers/JLA style super hero action adventure. Which is why he eventually opted out of making it.
But, seriously, you want something that's exactly like the comic? Read the damn comic! Or, hell, watch the damn motion comic. Other than the fact they audio-booked it by having bad voice actor do all the voices, I found it to be pretty neat. But the point is, the movie is the movie, and any movie adaptation that would or could be made was never going to be exactly the same as the comic. That's not the point of adapting it. Hell, that isn't the point of adapting any book. I'll never understand why people get so obsessed about what's different, what's left out, what's left in. I'd much rather see a talented director's vision of the material than a rote, stale, carbon copy of the source material. Ugh.
Oh, and yeah, @wingdarkness - The Black Freighter animation is horrible. Which is why I won't be bothering with this version of the movie. Now, the Under the Hood documentary, that's fantastic.
Oh, one more thing. Someone earlier asked if the Bernies have more prominence in the director's cut DVD. Well... they do, but it still isn't as much as the comics. It is more than the theatrical cut, though, and makes their deaths at the end a little bit more than just awkward. I imagine with the Black Freighter being put into this Ultimate Cut, the Bernies will have more screen time.
Posted 09/24/2009 at 06:59:34 PM
Glass said:
Whoever had the idea for the pirate logo thing should be fired immediately.
Posted 09/27/2009 at 02:08:37 PM
B.C. Cakes said:
I just want to see the big, long 215 minute movie. I'll borrow it from someone.
Posted 09/28/2009 at 09:41:13 AM





