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• We have no idea how much power Nolan actually has. I'd be shocked if he got to veto plans outright, especially if WB hires a big-name or even medium-name director. It's more likely he'll just be a voice in the room when the executives -- who have been fucking this up for years now -- meet.
• More importantly, how often will he actually be in that room? He's finishing Inception now, and then WB wants him to start on Batman 3 ASAP. I'd put down any amount of cash that between advising on Superman or making Batman 3, WB would rather he work on Batman.
• This Superman movie still doesn't exist. There are no scripts, no directors, no ideas. All Nolan can even say at the moment is "Let's not do something tremendously stupid," which, while good advice, is kind of vague.
This obviously isn't bad news, but let's not think this means the second coming of the Superman movie franchise. Seriously, Nolan is out of that meeting room even one day, and that could be the day they hire Tyler Perry to play the son of Richard Pryor's character from Superman III.
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Nicnac said:
I wouldn't mind seeing the movie in that picture... For me, Brandon Routh was perfectly alien and goody-two-shoes and I would like to see him rough it up with Batman...
Ah well.
James Wortman said:
The wind is blowing in two different directions in that pic! WHOSE RESPONSIBLE THIS?
But yeah, this is pretty cool news.
Bill Binder replied to James Wortman:
Incorrect; both of them are letting out simultaneous super-farts
Arcane replied to Bill Binder:
That's one of Superman's golden age powers
keepoffthegrass replied to James Wortman:
I thought so too, then I realized they both have the same cape.
GUMBERCULES! said:
Rob! Don't say that shit out loud! I swear that's how we got Marlon Wayans in G.I. Joe!
Bill said:
I like the fake picture!
SpiderHyphenMan said:
WB wants a dark gritty reboot of Superman, this is the only reason they would hire Chris Nolan. They, being a multi-billion dollar corporation, believe that what works for one thing works for everything. I predict seeing Superman, in a black and gray outfit like in Doomsday, putting rapists and crack dealers in the burn ward with his heat vision while growling about how he just wants to have a normal life. Also, Lex Luthor will snap Krypto's neck, in an effort to show just how DARK AND GRITTY this is.
Glass replied to SpiderHyphenMan:
Yes, because they couldn't have hired him because he knows his shit when it comes to rebooting franchises, successfully.
KingPsyz has a monolith from Jupiter said:
Or maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybeeeeeeeeee they're pushing for a World's Finest/Batman 3?
Bill Binder replied to KingPsyz has a monolith from Jupiter:
No. No they're not.
James Wortman said:
I can only imagine the fan uproar if the third Nolan movie teamed Batman with the Man of Steel. I'm hoping Nolan's around for quality assurance. We don't need "dark and gritty" for Superman.
But we DO need a villain that's not Lex Luthor! Someone he can PUNCH!
David replied to James Wortman:
We don't need Superman to be "dark and gritty," we the world he inhabits to be dark and gritty.
JOE said:
Please. They're just attaching Nolan's name to this to assure fans that this Superman movie won't suck.
They're show the finished trailer to him once, pay him to give it a thumbs up and be on their way with the Chris Nolan Seal of Approval
fishman2020 said:
I don't particularly think that Nolan would automatically do wonders for Superman. Nolan flourished with the Batman franchise because it's basically right up his directorial alley... I'm all for him working on Superman, but Superman is by no means a dark character, which is certainly Nolan's forte. If there's a young up and coming director attached to whatever this Superman project turns out to be, let's hope Nolan can guide him in the right direction. That said, I'd rather see Kevin Smith take a crack at it.
Kevin said:
There's no reason not to bring back Brandon Routh.
Glass replied to Kevin:
Yes there is, he sucked.
Scortia said:
It certainly beats Bryan Singer, but Nolan absolutely refuses to step out of realism in his Batman movies... that doesn't bode well for an alien baby-turned-behemoth powerhouse that gets his energy from the sun, has x-ray vision, and gets sick from green meteorites.
Nolan's realism is the one thing I don't like in his Batman movies. I miss the comic book fun that would allow Batman to face off with all his usual rogue's gallery and drive a cooler Batmobile. It doesn't have to automatically be Joel Schumacher if you go a more comic book route.
Thank you! Being the only "Heath Hater" I know of, I have been screaming this to the heavens and no fanboys seem to get it. Marvel will pull of Avengers brilliantly because the Heroes all live in the same world. But how can you combine a world where the Joker has to wear make up and carve his smile with a world with a flying alien and a dude with a magic ring? DC loooves their Dark Knight money but doesn't seem to understand Nolan has painted them into a corner. Unless they plan on using the Joker again AND killing the star that plays him the next Batman will fall on its ass, as will any hope of making a cohesive JLA movie.
The DC franchises of Superman Returns and Nolan's Batfilms where NEVER meant to interlock. Fans didn't see this as a viable aproach until Marvel did it, at which point anything ELSE became stupid. Problem is, Marvel PLANNED to do it from the start.
If WB/DC want their crossover movies, they either start from scratch(to which I'm game, especially where Supes is concerned) or just do a crossover standalone(to which I'm even more game)
Glass replied to Batzarro:
Exactly. Because Marvel is interlocking their movies doesn't mean that's the way it HAS to be. Batman and Superman were never intended to exist in the same movie universe.
Glass replied to Scortia:
Lol, are you retarded? That "fun" shit is why comic book movies are ghettoized and not taken seriously. You're basically saying that comic book movies should be prevented from being high art so you can have your silly entertainment. GO watch the Schumacher movies you fag, Lol.
Wyngarde said:
Always remember...Bruce Timm made Batman awesome again. And then they put him in charge of Superman...Which all lead to Justice League...Which was awesome.
Bruce Timm also allowed some sense of whimsy and super powers into BATMAN TAS, which paved the way for Superman to blend in. How is Nolan going to make SUperman fit with his uber-realistic Batman? Sorry Joker, you have to wear makeup because bleached skin is too crazy...now go fight that flying alien in blue tights.
Glass replied to DrewBlank:
Shut up, bitch.
demoncat said:
if Nolan follows the same formula he uses for batman i can see his attempt at big blue doing well in fact Time Warner should let Nolan take a crack at all their heros. next after super man Chris finaly puts Wonder woman on the big screen. besides Time warner is racing the clock since they know no no supes means paying the estates of the creators if no film by 2011 big bucks in back royalties
Yeah. That'd be a great formula to use on all of DC's movies. Now Superman is just a body builder that can jump kinda high, Flash is just a track star, Wonder Woman one of the GLOW girls and Green lantern is just a dude that found a sweet ring while playing the claw game a Chuck E Cheese. The formula barely works for Batman. Nolan has made sure no other heroes play in his sandbox. The limey bastard already made his masterpiece with Memento...can someone please just give him his tea and crumpets and ask him politely to bugger off?
Glass replied to DrewBlank:
You seriously need to shut the fuck up. Nolan is the best thing to happen to comic book movies and Batman movies since ever. The realistic aspects are what people like about Batman, not that unrealistic flying in space shit and facing off against mutant crocodiles. Mutilate your genitals and spare your seed the shame of being your progeny.
Eponymous said:
What is everyone's fascination with shitting on Superman Returns? I know, I know, it's all Kate Bosworth's fault...
But seriously, Brandon Routh was absolutely perfect in his part. He blended clumsy with confidence perfectly as he switched roles within the movie. It's not his fault Singer made him a stalker. And what's really the problem with the idea that Superman has a Kryptonian/Earthling child? It upsets some purists, but really, you're in the minority. Most people just want to see Supes fly and save the world, who gives a damn about the rest of the story...
I hope they bring Routh back. He is a great Superman and with the right script/director, I think he'd shine in a way that at least let's us consider putting him near Reeve's pedestal...
David replied to Eponymous:
I saw Superman Returns in IMAX 3D and the entire audience exploded after Superman saved the plane from crashing. People stood up and cheered! It was amazing. Too bad the rest of the movie didn't live up to that moment.
Bosworth was far too young as Lois. Lex Luther's plot made no sense.
They tried recreating the first Superman movie and it failed.
Let's stop making excuses for bad movies.
Glass replied to Eponymous:
Routh was just imitating Reeves. Fuck Routh.
Juancho said:
I think this means that he's advising them how to make the Superman story a little more "realistic", since his more realistic take on Batman has done so well.
And that MIGHT also mean they want to do a plausible Batman/Superman crossover film (set inside the Begins/Dark Knight Universe) that they have been having wet dreams about.
Of course, I'm just speculating; don't go saying this like it's fact.
David replied to Juancho:
I don't see the problem with making Superman more realistic anyway. He is a science fiction character who veers into science fantasy. The yellow sun/gravity of Earth reason is actually pretty good reason for Superman having powers. I think John Bryne's psionic theory is the best one.
He can be strong enough to juggle tanks, fast enough to run 100 mph, and nothing but an exploding shell can penetrate his skin (or armored piercing bullets). Extreme heat or cold could hurt him. Ditto lightning. If he needs to rip a steel door from it's hinges, he can grunt and struggle with it a bit (like Timm and Dini brilliantly did with Superman: TAS).
The Golden Age Superman could change his facial appearance, which is why no one knows Clark Kent is Superman. So they could bring that back.
As Clark Kent, attempting to hide his amazing abilities would create situations where Kent would be viewed as a klutz. His attempts to try and blend in, would make him viewed as weird by other people.
Oh, and he isn't a farmboy. He's an ET with knowledge of his home world and culture. After High School, he journey's around the world, learning about Earth and trying to help everyone. No one that spent years everywhere AND has the entire knowledge of Krypton would be some hick from a small town. He would have outgrown Smallville a long, long time ago.
The Golden Age Superman worked and I can't think of a single reason why that Superman couldn't work again.
Wobbles said:
I actually liked Routh, but the movie sucked overall.Except for a very few decent scenes, the whole movie was a depressing emo dead beat dad story. That's a little too "realistic" for people to want to see. Losers like that are on every block except they tend not to wear tights.Give it enough action and a halway decent storyline and fans willl eat up whatever they offer.
DrewBlank said:
I have a feeling he is working to the same capacity Favreau worked on Hulk and Thor. He is stepping in to advise and make sure all the movies has the same feel, so when they eventually do come together they mesh well together. Marvel did a great job so far and I believe The Avengers will kick all sorts of ass. DC so desperately wants to do what Marvel is doing they are following every footstep. Unfortunately, there is no way to combine Nolan's real world Batman with aliens and super powers without it looking like Batman & Robin all over again. Maybe they can bring back Heath "Prescriptions are for Sissies" Ledger and kill him again. That is the only way DC will EVER see Dark Knight money again.
Glass replied to DrewBlank:
Seriously, shut the fuck up.
septimuswigley said:
I was utterly nonplussed by your post until the very last line, at which point I went 'BUHHH! NO, NO AND THRICE NO!'
Don't do that again, sir.
kevin said:
Hmm, I guess I don't get it. If you look at Chris Nolen's filmography (and I love him, so I've seen many of his films) where he really excels is with the darker noir influenced genre. Obviously this lends itself to Batman... he's a detective afterall...
But how does this apply to Superman? I've always admittedly subscribed to Batman > Supermam because superman is an over grown boy scout and Batman is darker, more sinister... while I lean towards that character type, I also admit that you can't simply make superman darker... It just doesn't sit right in the mind.
Jellodyne said:
Why would they push for a World's Finest movie? Don't they know that when it releases zombies kick the crap out of the world so badly that Will Smith is like the only real guy left alive in New York?
Carl said:
Man, just come out of the Superman-hatin' closet, hater!
