• I was just glad that my franchise got the big screen, CG treatment. By no means do I admit it was a work of art, but it was better than the second.

• Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked the first but hated the second!

• Okay, I'm gonna settle some shit right now... once and for all... This whole "shut off your brain and enjoy it" bullshit. This is nothing more than a fucking defense mechanism for people that don't want to admit that the movie blew worse than a $3 hooker... if we adapted that mentality, guess what... we'd have to go back and excuse EVERY FUCKING HORRIBLE MOVIE WE'VE EVER BEEN SUBJECTED TO. You think "turning off your brain" would help Die Hard 4? Pluto Nash? Monkeybone? Hell no. These movies sucked, and so did Revenge of the Fallen. Deal with it!

• And for the last time, folks... the twins aren't racist... they're stereotypical, street-slang spouting, DUMB AS HELL MUTHERFUCKERS!!! And don't get me started on Devastator's balls...

• ... Well, I can see why you'd enjoy something so fucking stupid... look at how you type!

• The fact that people on here are actually defending TF2 is disheartening (and the fact that people are smug about "getting" TF2 is laughable). Thinking that the twins were racist makes you a racist? What? So if I see a KKK member running about burning crosses and say "dude, that guy is racist" obviously he is NOT and I AM for DARING to point that out? Are we all saying that Jar Jar Binks is now NOT racist either? Replace the twins with a couple of black actors and everyone defending them would be flipping their shit-yet have them be pretty CGI robot stand-ins and it's allllright (let's also ignore that the characters were extremely useless, they barely did anything to advance any part of the "plot". They didn't need to be there at all). I could go on about the insanity of liking TF2, but then I have to remember that everyone who did just liked it for the stiffy Megan Fox gave them and seeing robo-balls.

• Two things... Rattrap007, are you the same Rattrap from Iaconhub? operations, how exactly is Disney playing to the largest audience in America racist? By the definition of "whites" being the majority doesn't that mean that they are the biggest group with likely/potentially the greatest buying power. Which is what keeps the engine of our semi-capitalist motor running?

• At that point we can all walk out of the theatre/stop the blu-ray.

• internet smugness alert, critical mass has been reached.

• Agreed. I think that factor, more than anything else, was the reason why ROTF ultimately failed as a movie. Kurtzman and Orci were also involved at the same time in writing J.J. Abrams' Star Trek reboot. And with the strike going on, their energies were really divided and they could only really work on one movie. Star Trek was further along in development and Abrams really wanted their input, so they focused more on that. The results speak for themselves: Star Trek ended up being the better movie. ROTF, not so much. Without Kurtzman and Orci to reign-in Bay, Bay had to take up the slack and fill it with his own concepts; such as the dogs humping, the robot girlfriend, the appliances transforming, Devastator's balls, Sam's mom getting high on marijuana brownies, and of course the "racist" twins (which I also believe were not so much racist as they were just mimicking Earth culture. Face it, people, there ARE black people out there who really DO talk like that, whether you want to admit it or not.) Not to mention all the other lapses in logic that the plot had. Bay may be a competent action director, but he sucks at character development and it shows. Even Shia LeBeouf recently admitted in an interview that he didn't think ROTF was all that great either. Among some of the things he said: "When I saw the second movie, I wasn't impressed with what we did. There were some really wild stunts in it, but the heart was gone. We got lost. We tried to get bigger. It's what happens to sequels. It's like, how do you top the first one? You've got to go bigger. Mike went so big that it became too big, and I think you lost the anchor of the movie. You lost a bit of the relationships. Unless you have those relationships, then the movie doesn't matter. Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other." He promised the second movie would be better, saying "There's going to be a lot of death, human death. This time, they're targeting humans. It's going to be the craziest action movie ever made, or we failed." If Shia himself is admitting ROTF sucked, and he's reassuring us that the the third movie will be better, I'm inclined to take him at his word. Plus to me the news of both Alan Tudyk AND John Malkovich being in the sequel can only mean their presence will elevate it further in terms of quality. We all know that it's been well-established that it's impossible for anything anyone from the Firefly cast appears in to suck. And anything Malkovich participates in is equally full of win.

• This is not the fangirl you're looking for. *hand wave*

• Racist or not, I don't care. It's humor aimed at the lowest level, and therefore not for me. Hopefully Bay will overplay his hand so much we'll see a reboot in a few years.

• Sexy voice? Bonita?

• In TF3 Tudyk's character will probably die...again...like every gig he gets, granted he does it so well.

• Alan Tudyk, NOOOO!

• lol

• holy crap someone reads this blog and has common sense. you are awesome.

• I agree, which is why I'm going to unveil my new character. Baboon Boy. He'll have big lips and ears and like watermellon and fried chicken. He'll be a rapper with gold chains and teeth, and hang out with his monkey Homeys on the porch all day long. Not at all racist, he's a baboon, see.

• With all due respect, Alan Tudyk is just trying to get work...Not like his career hit Nathan Fillion level like the rest...Even the bang-chick from FireFly is a reptile queen in V...God Bless you Alan, you're gonna need his light joining this drek, but good news? College Loan Payments, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

• *Sigh* At least it isn't Bruce Campbell? Yeah, I got nothin'.

• Nobody gave a shit when Steve Buscemi, "Mr. Indie Film" himself, appeared in TWO Bay pix. Maybe because (a) he was actually kinda entertaining in both and (b) he takes his ill-gotten booty from these blockbusters and puts 'em towards his own projects. (Hey, it worked for John Cassavetes, didn't it?) I'm sure Tudyk will be watchable and quirky as always, no matter what the role is. Then again, Meggles wasn't enough to make me sit down and watch T1 OR T2, so I'm sure Alan will understand if I opt for a FIREFLY marathon instead.

• You know, normally I don't mind politically incorrect humor. Yet, in the case of the twins, it's so dumb and badly done in a movie that really doesn't make an issue of it. Such character would work if that was the point of the piece. Yet in Bayformers they just serve as generic comic relief, thus reinforcing the stereotype, not dealing with it at all in any context.

• The only people that were offended by the "racist" robots were white people. No one else gave a shit. Thank you once again, white people, for telling the rest of us what is racist and what isn't. Your white guilt is much appreciated.

• Am I the only one who just thought the robots themselves were stupid and that was the end of it? Unlike most of you, who transferred your own racial prejudices onto the two robots. Being a minority, the ONLY people I know who were offended by the robots were white people who assumed that the robots were black because of how they acted. Just because the robots were illiterate and talked strangely does not mean they were supposed to represent black people, thinking that is incredibly offensive to those who are. What most people don't get is that most things are not meant to be racist, the racism is transferred onto it by someone who thinks it is or should be. Idiotic illiterate robots with gold teeth=not racist People who say they are because they represent black people=racist

• Finally, someone makes some sense about that. It's like when Ebert complained about the robots talking in slang--what part of "We downloaded Earth's languages from the Web" did he not understand? If robots have online-English to learn from, sooner or later some of them are going to come out talking like dumbasses. Calling "racist" has become as bad as calling someone "Nazi", in the sense that as soon as you say it, you might as well pull out a huge sign that says "I have no intelligent argument to make, so I'll grasp at straws with a ten-foot pole."

• The we can all maybe find out how a human has sex with a Transformer? Because my god, it just seems like it would literally kill a lady...or robo-slut

• That's what I remember--when pics of the Twins first appeared everyone thought they were dumb, inbred redneck hicks. And everyone was more or less cool with it. But turn them into the "white boys trying to act black" stereotype? OH LORDY-LORD, DAT'S CROSSIN' DA LINE RIGHT DERE!

• The most annoying bits of TF2 for me were all the redundant shots of millitary procedure. TF and TF2 are the only Bay movies that I've seen, so the millitary porn didn't really bug me that much in the first movie. Seeing them in the second movie, my opion was "Okay Bay, we've been there and done that in the first movie, thanks, but let's go back to Prime ripping off Dececpticon faces."

• I've never understood the people that say, "I JUST WANNATED TO SEE RUBUTS BLOWZ SHITZ UP!" Both movies were about the military blowing giant robots up. The fucking Decepticons are more impotent than Bob Dole without a hefty dose of viagra.

• The twins dont speak in Ebonics!!! Seriously they sound more like Larry the Cable Guy, or lol catz than Jay-Z or Snoop. My impressoin of them was they were red necks. Even after I heard people claiming they spoke in Ebonics, they still sound like hicks. I would argue that when the FBI raided the hacker's house, and we got another scared black man routine was the most racist thing of either move, and even that is something the Wayan brothers are extremely guilty of.

• I don't know when exactly stereotypes became en vogue again and were worth defending, but it's sad indeed. A few of them wouldn't be worth getting excited about but when they're piled up so high and milked for whatever "entertainment value" so often even in "benign" forms and with the buck constantly being passed between consumers pointing their fingers saying they're only swallowing what's given them while the produces pointing their fingers at consumers saying their only giving them what they want, and all the while people with know appreciation for yet a strange perceived authority in how such regular skewer representations and tropes for non-white ethnic groups afffect them, it becomes gravely disconcerting to say the very least. And that's before you get in the childish little trolls that latch on to the issue for the sake of self-amusement.

• TF3 should be better, what with there not being a writer's strike necessitating the need to write the script (consisting of napkin notes) in the space of two weeks, then changing it during filming. At least they heave a complete script formulated this time around.

• THIS is the best comment of the thread.

• i wasn't as turned out by Shuck and Jive's antics as everyone else. after a bigscreen, hi-def, close up of turturo's dimply ass, i was too shocked to be indignant, too embarrassed; that and maybe a story that could've been written by the ghost of lucas past. if there's one thing i could constructively recommend on this third--and hopefully last--installment, it's an editor with the courage to delete extraneous subplots like the robotic girlfriend or the resurrection of megatron, or an executive producer(someone) who'll keep bay within the logical confines of a story. having to constantly think thru a story while it's in motion because it continually doesn't make sense is a real buzzkill.

• I still love transformers, still love the movieverse, still love it all. You guys bitch for no reason. And as we know, a few hundred nerdragers will stop the movie from making multi millions again, so keep on keeping on.

• I can see the headlines following the Transformers 3 premier: "Mass Suicide At Nation's Theaters, Racist Autobots Return To Blame"

• I can see the wedding being the finale. The robot baby eggs will be in the fourth movie "Transformers: Optimus Prime FOURever"

• oh and robot egg baby..things?

• The FAQ Rob wrote is what brought me too the site in the first place, gold. only reason I have a hard time hating TF2 so much, though I did only watch it for the first time like 2 months ago...I just laughed and thought "oh my god! Rob was spot on! Spot on!"

• I think Yevla & Sykishi have both suffered serious head injuries. "Satire", what? Quick go find a Nurse Joy!

• The explanation for this travesty is obvious: Alan Tudyk needs money. And it's a bad enough situation that he has to lower himself to this crap. Maybe his mom needs a kidney. So let's pull a Stephen Baldwin and start collecting money for him. We are his brothers and sisters in Nerdianity and must support him in this trying time.

• Just a little longer, fanboys. Then "War for Cybertron" will arrive to wipe your greasy, blubbery tears away. I still don't know which movies you guys saw--my childhood's virtue is still intact. Are you sure it was Bay and not creepy Uncle Mattel, who gives you great toys but only if you take a bath with him and you're 20?

• Please quote where I said, "bay making transformers 2 into a bad movie is the equivalent to someone raping your mom, then you need some serious psychological help." or stuff it.

• Well, Bay might not include the racist twins, but he still has a ad placement agreement with GM, so he probably still wants to use the cars. He'll just make someone else transform into them.

• Wow, people here have to calm down. Last time I checked it was just a movie! Wow, you are making me embarrassed to be a geek.

• I hope Bonita Prime is in this one.

• Never saw TF2. The first one hurt my brain that badly.

• I said it before, I'll say it again. I LOVED both Transformers movies. There, I said it out loud. Maybe it's because I just enjoy the movies for what I went into them for: to watch giant robots blow each other up, and Optimus Prime's smexy voice. Sometimes I wonder if everyone is taking these movies a wee bit too seriously.

• Best. Comment. EVER.

• FTW !

• The only thing that was even remotely awesome about the first one was he way that they CGI-ed the sweat glistening off of Megan Fox's dimples of Venus while she was fixing Sam's car. Oh wait, was that Jennifer's Body? I forget, sometimes. That dirty tramp is in everything these days.

• My favorite thing about the TF films are the dvds. Listening to Bay try to defend himself is 1000X better than anything he's made,so I kinda look forward to this one.

• I hope Bay adds a new robot. A female one that acts sassy and loud and has a giant trunk, and her head juts from side to side a lot and puts her palm up anytime anyone talks to her. It could be Bay's take on Blackarachnia.

• "Youth culture in this nation today is dedicated to segregating, isolating, and destroying anyone who is different from them." You mean like Autobots vs Decepticons? Aww snap. your argument jus' got schooled son!

• If bay making transformers 2 into a bad movie is the equivalent to someone raping your mom, then you need some serious psychological help. If some of you are going to be over the top about Bay's ridiculous take on transformers, you can at least be funny about it. As to those who claim that the twins were racist due to the stereotype, you need to make a better argument than that.

• I am SOOOO looking forward to Transformers 3, for the sole reason of reading the Topless Robot review of said movie. The review of Transformers 2 was what unveiled to me the sheer awesomeness that is Topless Robot, and it still stands as an unparalleled masterpiece of critiquing, so I just know deep down in my tasty heart that the next review will be the best thing ever written by humankind.

• "I am sick of people calling them "racist". They are young bots that studied youth culture of earth. They are mimicking earth youth." Which is racist. Youth culture in this nation today is dedicated to segregating, isolating, and destroying anyone who is different from them. Look at events with kids harassing each other on Facebook. Or the beatings of 'them homo-kids' outside schools. Then there is TV. Every show for kids that claims to be multicultural, is really just a show with the token 'black kid' and the like, all played to stereotypes. Look at every show on Teen Nick and Teen Disney, and you see white privileged kids (sometimes with Magic!) as far as the eye can see. The stuff on MTV is therefore geared to a counter-culture, which at this point is anything non-white. Therefore, by its very nature, youth culture is racist. And the twins reflect that, which is why everyone hates them, because it shows us that _we have failed the youth._

• "....the awesomeness of the first one..." Clearly you've suffered a serious head injury and should seek immediate medical attention.

• People you are a large part of the reason i loved skids and mudflap. If your post is serious then i pray to all the deities in the cosmos they are in the film,aside from being one of the few sane people who realize their satire i get so much enjoyment over people who nerdrage about bayformers.

• You gotta forgive Alan Tudyk, the man got killed, revived, only to be killed again, all within 2 hours.....his brains not all there.

• Ok on the twins.. I am sick of people calling them "racist". They are young bots that studied youth culture of earth. They are mimicking earth youth. as for the illiteracy, the symbols they are shown are of an ancient cybertronian dead language. It is like me showing you some ancient Aztec, myan, or Egyptian writing. You may be able to say "That is Myan" but the chances of you knowing how to read it are slim to none. You'd need someone who was alive then or who studied it. Jetfire was alive when it was still slightly in use, thus he can read it. The twins may have said "we don't read so good.." but remember Bumblebee was there too and obviously he couldn't read it either..

• "So. The disgrace of Alan Tudyk and the return of the Racist Twins. As god is my witness, I don't know which one is worse" It's a tough call, alright, but I think the Tudyk role is worse. After all, we expect Michael Bay to crap all over everything at this point, so including the Racist Twins, while revolting, isn't a big surprise. Tudyk, on the other hand, is someone I would normally associate with quality (or at least watchable) entertainment, so his involvement in this is doubly disheartening.

• Bay has already shit all over everyones childhood memories, anything he does from here on out isn't worth talking about. If someone rapes your mom you don't take the guy out for beers after cause you're curious what he has planned for the rest of the day.

• Hey guys, maybe Alan sold his soul for a GOOD reason . . . maybe in exchange for appearing in Transformers 3, the powers-that-be will let a new Serenity movie be made? Maybe? Please? This is the only thought that let me sleep last night once I heard about this . . .

• I'm 110% sure I will enjoy your trashing of this movie more than I will the actual movie...much like Transformers 2. Still cracking me up 2 years later.

• OH ALAN! Nooooooooo!

• I punished myself enough by sitting (and sleeping) through Transformers 2, even though I swore I wouldn't pay to see it. I've learned my lesson and absolutely with not see Transformers 3, so I really don't care what Bay does anymore.

• Bay boasts of running a disinformation campaign to give people false spoilers. I could see him lying about the Twins as part of this.

• If those fucking twins are in this movie, I will not only not go myself, I will fucking boycott this movie. i'm talking a politics-style boycott, with signs and marches and shit. Nothing has ever broken my heart as Transformers 2. NOTHING. I was willing ot give him one more chance after the awesomeness of the first one, but if he does this, fuck Michael Bay.

• Maybe he presses the button that starts the compactor on the two? I'd pay for that.

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