• Nerds don't hate stuff 'cause its popular, they hate it 'cause it sucks. Like Avatar. Don't get mad just 'cause everyone in the world doesn't like your furry movie, bro.

• When is fear of tentacle rape irrational? Isn't that ALWAYS justified? Even if I were in the middle of one, I would still be flinching at the thought that it might happen again.

• Del Toro is a supporter of rape. He signed the "Free Roman Polanski" petition that was being circulated at Cannes earlier this year. Del Toro thinks drugging and raping 13 year old girls is perfectly fine and dandy.

• Thank you for you dumbass, have a nice day now.

• thats a triple-word score!

• When I think mad mountains these days... *puts on sunglasses dramatically* I think of Christina Hendricks. YEEEEEEEEEEAH!

• I didn't think this movie was ever going to happen, so when a friend of mine mentioned they had the actual screenplay for Del Toro's ATMOM, I said 'sure, I'll read it' (I don't like to read scripts before I've seen the movie. But I read it and... You know how (those of you who have read Lovecraft will know, anyway) there is a LOT of talking and backstory and reading from books in his stories but no actual...y'know...action? I was extremely skeptical at first--how can you take that and make it into a movie--scratch that--a MAINSTREAM movie--that people will want to watch, while still retaining Lovecraft's signature portentous creepiness and moments of cosmic dread and horror? Well, Del Toro figured it out. It's actually action packed. I won't get into specifics, but laypeople who don't know their R'Lyeh from their Rye Bread will get a kick out of this movie. It's got everything, and it's going to be a HUGE movie--epic scale, horrifying, and exciting. If anything, Lovecraft purists will complain that there's too much action, and people who love Carpenter's "The Thing" (like myself) might complain that there's too many similarities. But I have said too much! Seriously, though, I really hope this is actually happening because the screenplay is awesome and this would be an amazing big-budget action/horror movie. 3-D? They could do some great things, especially flying through the titular mountains, etc. But we'll see...if the stars align...

• A del Toro-directed movie in 3D? This is going to be the darkest movie ever. I'm expecting to need nightvision goggles on top of my 3D glasses.

• Seen it? I got it!

• I am a Lovecraft fanboy. Del Toro is one of the best directors working today. This combination should be mind blowing...! Holyfuckballs yes... YES!! I'm sick of the weak, horrible low budget Lovecraft movies with almost no connection to his actual stories.

• This will be the best date movie EVAH!

• Oh, my bad, I just saw the part where he called it the blue cat Ferngully or whatever because I actually read the article. I fucking hate the fact there is a sect of nerds that think it's cool to hate stuff just because it's popular. And blue Pocahontas my ass, if that's the case Star Wars is a shit film tipoff of Hidden Fortress with robots. Fuck you very much.

• well, seeing cthulhu in 3D certainly won't help cure my irrational fears of tentacle rape -shudders- i'd watch the shit out of the movie, though! i'll just pretend cameron didn't have a hand on it, and it was all del toro's doing all along. >:3

• haters are gonna haaaaate -blows vuvuzela in Monkey boy's ears-

• THIS! but i'm scared my head might explode...

• I totally agree. Seriously, I think I'd pee my pants if I saw 3D shoggoth tentacles reaching out of a theater screen for me. Can't wait!

• Not sure if the last post I made here took or not. (I got some kind of a message telling me it had to be approved by the administrator or something.) Anyway, I had just said that I loved the HPLHS's <i>Call of Cthulhu</i> movie and that I'm really looking forward to their adaptation of "The Whisperer in Darkness." Trailer here: http://www.cthulhulives.org/Whisperer/trailer.html

• Also of note are the three Arkham House hardcovers which are considered by aficionados to be the best collections of Lovecraft's work. They're a bit expensive, though, so I'd suggest checking the library to see if they have them. (Many American libraries do, but I'm not certain if other countries would. They're readily available on Amazon UK, though.) The volumes are: <i>The Dunwich Horror and Others</i> (which contains the title story and the previously recommended "The Call of Cthulhu") <i>Dagon and Other Macabre Tales</i> <i>At the Mountains of Madness and Other Novels</i>

• The one warning I would give about the public domain e-texts is that, if I'm not mistaken, they're the versions that originally appeared in the pulp magazines and not the corrected texts edited by August Derleth or S.T. Joshi. To be honest, I'm not entirely certain about all the differences, but I do know that Lovecraft was upset with many of the changes and errors brought about by the magazine publishers.

• Agreed! I just read those last year. I started with <i>The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories</i> and read it straight through. The title story is actually a decent place to start if you're looking for something quintessential to figure out if you'll like his stuff. In the Penguin edition, it's only about 30 pages. It's immediately followed by "The Colour Out of Space," which I thought was one of his creepiest and most atmospheric stories.

• I agree that if done properly the 3D could work very well. To me perfect thing to do is keep the 3D to a minimum until the City of the Elder Things is revealed and then just hit the audience in the face with it. It'll be a great way to solidify the alien appearance of the city and drive home the idea that this isn't a place that jives with the natural order of things. I just hope that they don't use it as an excuse to have the various Elder Things, Mi-Go and Starspawn waggle their tentacles in our faces.

• "Indiana Jones and the Mountains of Madness" in 3D! "Tentacles. Why did it have to be tentacles?"

• What the hell are you talking about? Rob acknowledged that he has given Cameron plenty of crap before but that he is thankful that he is behind this project with his obvious Hollywood clout. Where exactly was he running down Avatar even further? Oh wait, he wasn't.

• I'm quite giddy to see as Shoggoth--or any of Lovecrafts more maddening-to-behold creations--in 3D. I think it might actually be the IDEAL use of the new 3D trend; not just a gimmick, or a way of showcasing the visual splendor (as fine as that is), but actually adding something to the representation that nothing else adequately could. In this case, the existential <i>wrongness</i> of the horrors of Lovecraft. Like the impossible angles of R'lyeh, or a Shoggoth who, despite the normal lighting and texturing, sometimes appears concave...and about a mile deep. If it doesn't have people complaining of nausea and possibly having seizures, it'll have done something wrong.

• I'm a fan of the Penguin Classics annotated versions, myself. Lots of fascinating insight.

• Anybody here seen the HP Lovecraft Historical society's version of The Call of Cthulu? I'd say it's the single best adaptation ever (and 100% faithful to the story)...if you know what my name refers to, I'm a big HPL fan!

• +1

• Just came her to point out that Cameron's 3D is the GOOD 3D where it's filmed in 3D to begin with and not the shitty, tacked-together-after-the-fact 3D. Carry on.

• Hoping for a lack of Del Toro looking monsters (Eye hand thing from Pan's Labyrinth and Death with eye wings) in the movie, since that will ruin it. Not that I'm sure that atMoM would be good to adapt into a movie. It's like creeping, low-key horror without any scares right up until the end.

• HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! HP Lovecraft is absolutely amazing and Guillermo Del Toro is brilliant when it comes to crazy-weird monsters. I am thrilled - THRILLED - that this is happening. Now I just hope they don't screw it up.

• I think I may have just came. Or went insane....both?

• "blue cat furry Ferngully" god damn it, thank you. Thank you.

• At this point this is all just rumour - GDT has yet to actually confirm it. But IF it's true it should be a really great match. Guillermo and Cameron have been friends for a very long time and I'm hoping that means that they know each other well enough for Cameron to just let Guillermo do what Guillermo does best while using his post-Avatar clout to keep the studios off Guillermo's back

• I have to admit I'm skeptical. Del Toro is a great Director when left to his own devices and Pan's Labyrinth is a perfect example of why I have been crossing my fingers for a Del Toro directed Lovecraft film ever since it was first announced as a possibility. On the other hand, Hellboy. They're fun supernatural adventure movies but they're piss poor Hellboy stories and if the decision is made to make this into an adventure story rather than a horror story I'm going to be a little irate. And then there's James Cameron who is part of the George Lucas "special effects and technology are the same as character as story development" school of design and I'm really hoping he doesn't get his dirty hands all over the project. That's really all I have to say about that. So yeah I'm apprehensive but hopeful that this will turn out good but well aware of the fact that there's a good chance it could end up being mass appealed and studio fucked into "Indiana Jones and the Mountains of Madness" in 3D! *explosion*

• Well both are passion projects for him. He's wanted to do Lovecraft for years and he's a gigantic Haunted Mansion nerd that rides the thing annually as a way to relieve stress and is planning on using the Hatbox Ghost, the guy they removed from the ride in the first week due to technical problems and basically became a Disney counterpart to Fett as a result.

• Sorry for the anonymous, that was an accident, I take full responsibility for the above comment. Listen to all the cheerleaders, I know its robs blog he can do what he wants, alls I'm saying is it seems logical to me that as a nerd I think del toro and lovecraft go together like peanut butter and chocolate. And just because camerons involved it gets relegated to possible "meh" status.

• I'm sure Rob appreciates you letting him put his dick in your mouth.

• It did not "tank". It's in production hell waiting to be green-lit. Completely different box of frogs, can of worms or choice of euphemism.

• Del Toro adapting Lovecraft? Tentative applause--or should I say "tentacled" applause?

• Well, his cthulian horrors in Hellboy were pretty good, so I think he's got the art direction to pull this off.

• I am very eager to see a big screen faithful adaptation of Lovecraft's work. But at the same time it makes me sad because it reminds me of the tragedy of H.P. Lovecraft's life. He spent a long time struggling with various mental inssues. His work didn't gain any critical recognition until after he died. He died of stomach cancer, that sucks to die from with modern medicine, and that was in the 1930's. I hope he is able to look down and see this as he roams the cosmos alongside the Outer Gods. Seriously though the man could be incredibly depressing and nihilistic, I'm sure the Old Ones would welcome him.

• <b>ABOUT. DAMN. <i>TIME</i>.</b> Last I heard, he was doing some Disney <i>Haunted Mansion</i> jive, whereupon I was sad and felt lonely. Screw that!

• I love it when people make stupid comments aimed at the thread-starter/author/poster, because it makes it that much more awesome when they get put in their place.

• http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/index.html I'll just leave this here for all of you wanting to read lovecraft...

• I lost my library card along with my wallet, £13 and my Oyster Card last week. Grumble. But I'll head down to the library at some point and check out Dunwitch, or some of the short stories. Thanks for the help!

• Yes! For a while I thought he would never get around to making this movie. Between The Hobbit boondoggle and his subsequent announcement that he was doing the new "Haunted Mansion" movie and the remake of "Don't Be Afraid of the Dark," it was looking like he was increasingly getting sidetracked. I had known this was a project he had wanted to do for the last several years. ATMOM is one of my favorite Lovecraft stories, and one that I had been dying to see as a film adaption of (next to "Shadow Over Innsmouth," which Stuart Gordon eventually did as "Dagon." Not one of his best, I'm afraid.) But if anyone was going to give this story the proper treatment it deserved, it was going to be del Toro. I can't think of anyone else who could have given the city of the Elder Things the bizarre and alien feel that it warrants. And it's going to be in 3D and James Cameron is producing! To me, this is just awesome!

• If you want to read one story for free, there is one and only one available at Project Gutenberg. http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/31469

• nice been waiting for Del Torro to get around to do his dream project. even if it is in 3d. and with James on board if nothing else he will run interferance and block some execs from interfering and trying to mess with Del Torro vision and being the first to ever put love crafts work on the big screen.

• Bite your tongue! Do you know how long I've been waiting for a decent film adaptation of "The Hobbit"?

• I doubt the 3D will add much to the film. But with camerons involvement it certainly won't take away from it. And if del toro is suited for anything, it's lovecraft.

• There are dozens of compilations of shorts. I'd grab a chait and a coffee in a store and give one or two (Dunwitch is good, As is Colour out of Space) a read before investing. Unless you actually have a library card. In any case, try before you buy. His style isn't for everyone.

• The Dunwitch Horror is a good one to start. I would recommend reading his short stories prior to reading the breakdowns on something like Wikipedia. Not knowing what to expect is one of the great aspects of Lovecraft. Even modern day writers seem to lack his flair for horror.

• I need to bone up on Lovecraft (tee-hee) because I've never read one of his books but he is supposedly the best thing ever.... where's a good place to start?

• ZING! LOL

• Well, let's break this down. I love the original Tron movie, and Tron: Legacy looks really good. I love the Scott Pilgrim comic, and the movie trailers look really good. I'm not a huge fan of del Toro, and we've seen nothing from the movie yet. So... yeah. And I was speaking exclusively of the 3-D in those last three sentences.

• I don't recoil in terror at 3D being announced during pre-production. It's only when it gets tacked on at the end that it's an issue.

• So tron and scott pilgrim make you have sixteen nerdgasms, but a faithful adaptation of a classic lovecraft work directed by Guillermo del toro is only worthy of a "benefit of the doubt" and it "might suck".... o_O

• Can we get Elder beings in 4D?

• Rob, I love you, but get over Avatar. It's a fun movie that obviously didn't have enough tentacle/school girl porn to fill your needs.

• thank god the hobbit tanked

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