Because that's what he's yelling now when he pitches the Emperor down the shaft. I'm afraid this is no joke -- several people/sites have gotten their review copies of the Star Wars Blu-rays in, and they're all saying the same thing. Oh, plus:
• CG Yoda is definitely in The Phantom Menace now, whether that footage I previously ran was old or not
• Obi-Wan's dragon call that scares off the Sand People is fucking insane
• R2-D2's rock covering on Tatooine is now physically impossible for him to get into
• Jabba's palace door is now ridiculously large
• EWOKS BLINK
If you can ignore how creepy that last change is -- and man, I expect it to be really fucking creepy -- and focus on the issues at hand, it's worth noting that Lucasfilm has not denied any of these changes, since they popped up on the interwebs last evening, so... yep. All true.
Can I get real for a minute? I think most people would agree this is a pretty terrible addition to make. Darth Vader's wordless betrayal of the Emperor has always been one of the original trilogy's most powerful moments, because you genuinely don't know what Vader's going to do, and you have to envision the turmoil going on underneath that mask -- which is so much more effective than him reliving his goofy "NOOOOOOOOOOO" yell from the end of Revenge of the Sith. This is a change, like so many of these Star Wars alterations have been, that has genuinely lessened the movies. They have made them worse.
Now, obviously George Lucas disagrees, and they're his damn movies. He can change them as much as he wants -- I understand that, and I genuinely don't begrudge him that. Honestly, if he wants to go in and redub everything so Luke and Leia are named Jeff and Snooki, he can. They're his. He's in charge.
So I'm not complaining about these changes. Honestly -- and this is what the George Lucas hater-haters don't understand -- is that most of us who freak out about this shit aren't really complaining about the changes. Oh, we may dislike them immensely, sure, but again, they're his damn movies. What we're upset about is Lucas' refusal to release the original Original Trilogy -- the way we saw it and loved from 1977-1997 -- in a decent quality format.
Yes, I know they were released on DVD, and let me explain why those don't count -- because they weren't anamorphic widescreen, which means two things: 1) the video quality wasn't up to the basic quality standards of 99% of DVDs released since the year 2000, and 2) they weren't formatted for widescreen TVs, so, say, if you had a 60-inch TV and put on one of those DVDs, the movie would actually only be 45-or-so-inches long. This would be acceptable for maybe something like Roger Corman's horrible Star Ward rip-off Starcrash, but not three of the most popular, highest-grossing movies of all time. It's worth noting that Starcrash has had a DVD release, and it was in anamorphic widescreen. When we complain, we complain that we can't get the Star Wars we saw and loved and sustained for 20 years with the same amount of quality as fucking Starcrash.
Now, is it our right to get the original Star Wars flicks, unedited, in decent modern quality on DVD or Blu-ray? No. Does George Lucas owe us these things? No. Do we deserve them? Well, I don't even know about that, but it would be nice to have the fucking option. If George Lucas is interested in pleasing his fans -- and honestly, there's not a lot of indication that he is -- I think he would give us the chance to own the non-Special Editions in the same quality as the Special Editions. After all, we're just not a tiny but vocal group -- even celebrities like Simon Pegg are losing their minds over this shit (check his Twitter feed). Plus, even non-Star Wars fans think most of these changes are dumb, so it's not like we're just bitching because the movies aren't like we remember them. We're upset because they are, to almost all audiences, worse.
But what's most galling is that George Lucas has spent so much of his post-Original Trilogy career trying to make movies, all movies, look and sound better. THX, Skywalker Sound, ILM -- all of these things were created to improve the quality of movies. The man clearly knows and cares about visual and sound standards for his films, and yet he purposefully released the non-fucked-with Original Trilogy in an inferior format, despite his own standards. That's malicious. And it's still fucking malicious. Having the choice between the Special Editions and a shit-quality non-Special Editions set is no choice at all, and George Lucas fucking knows that.
I'll post the videos of all the changes here in a sec. This rant has gone on long enough.
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George lucas is a hand job whos suckered all you fucking geeks into buying his shit over and over and over again all for the sake of profits not artistic integrity and you guys buy i to it hook line and sinker like the little star wars sheep you are .....get off the couch use that money you would have spent on yet another rerelease of his shitty movie buy some software and a camera and make your own films or do something with your life instead of bitching about the guy who conned you out of billions of dollars ... He is a fuckin thief and u should be pissed at the fact hes taken so much money and unjust credit for something he created 30 fucking years ago !!!!!!! Move the fuck on!!!!!!!!!
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I was so angry at the shoddy treatment Lucas gave both the fans and the original trilogy with that disgusting release of the, as you say, "non-fucked-with Original Trilogy in (its) inferior format". If I'd known before I bought it what he'd done, there would have been no purchase, as there hadn't been of the earlier fucked-with DVD release, and hasn't been of the new fucked-with blu-ray... I would love to watch all the extras, but not being given the option to see the real deal movies (and no, I don't think he has any right at all to fuck with Empire and Jedi... they're his productions, but they're NOT his movies, they're Kershner's and Marquand's movies) would just make me too cranky about forking out bucks (and in my mind thereby endorsing the changes) for them that I wouldn't enjoy. Hell, I'm just grateful I didn't get ever get rid of my VHS Widescreen editions of the three original movies, because as things stand today, they're the only ones really worth watching. I just have to hope my remaining VCR doesn't give up the clappers anytime soon <crosses fingers til knuckles turn white>
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Same age as me and that might have been the same year that I go it. Outstanding
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I'm 29 and I had the Betmax version of the trilogy bought for me in 1988!
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Support the Rebellion. Tell George to give us our films. http://www.zazzle.com/mcclaneentertainment
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Eh, change is life. Star Wars was great when I was a kid, but I'm not now. I have the memories, but I'm not gonna consider them invalidated just because stuff has been changed. Lucas could put them all in tutus and I wouldn't really care since I'm not gonna bother getting the DVDs and it doesn't change the past.
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Maybe Lucas should just reshoot the OT with new actors, make all the changes, add insane amounts of CGI. Then redo all the post OT movies to sync with all the new story elements. Release that. Then he can make sequels based on the Timothy Zahn novels...but please release the original movies as they were made on Bluray so everyone is happy.
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I wanted to thank you for posting the link to secret history of Star Wars. It's amazing how many people were involved with creating Star Wars, including his (ex)wife. George Lucas is a hack and if it wasn't for his wife Star Wars would have been as bad as Star Crash or some of the other Z movie crap the SyFy channel runs on Saturday night.
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Forgive me if someone else has already noted this, but... Did anyone else think of "Khaaaaan" when they heard the "Noooooo" or was it just me being perverse? The changes make me sad.
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That's why I still hang on to my Original THX edition of the original trilogy on laser disc..
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The worst part is that the things he's changing aren't the REAL problems. Let's take the Ewoks, for instance. NOBODY hated the Ewoks because they didn't blink. We hated them because they were so obviously midgets wearing cheap costumes made out of carpet that restricted their movements so badly that all they could do was try not to fall down. Thus, it was completely unbelievable that they would be able to defeat stormtroopers. Want to IMPROVE them? Add some CGI ewoks jumping onto the backs of stormtroopers and leaping from trees. THAT would be cool. Blinking doesn't improve a thing. Adding the "Noooooooooo!!!" dialogue makes what was hauntingly ambiguous painfully obvious and hackneyed. What would anyone expect from a washed up hack like Lucas, though?
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Lucas can go F@#$ himself with a 12" Gungan cock!
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Totally thought about that scene too. He has no one around him anymore that can give him constructive criticism. Rebember all that talk about no/sparingly use of CGI befor "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" was released? Then we got CGI Monkey's fighting for Sam Witwicky and gigant killer Ants that looked and behave like something out of a bad B-Movie.
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Who gives a fuck if the Ewoks blink. Youd rather them be more puppet like? Go watch a fucking puppet show. All of the movies are fine, who gives a shit if they make tweaks to add more to it. Quit bitching and go watch Harry fucking Potter.
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Speaking as an artist I can say that you are never happy with your own work, there are any number of pictures that I wish I could go back and change. However an old tutor of mine told me something that I hold to this day, If you ever think "is it done? Does it need anything more?" That is the point at which you put the pencil down. WIthout that restraint you can very easily ruin a good peice of work simply by trying to tweak it. George Lucas needs to put the pencil down. But since its his baby, im pretty sure as long as he lives he will keep tweaking it. He was a much better film maker when he didn't have the money to tell his Editors to bugger off.
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I am fine with these changes. The thing I don't understand about the "haters" is they want the original trilogy unedited, but when they got that they complain they were not edited to be anamorphic widescreen which the originals were not, and 5.1 which the originals were not. Yes I would like those too, but you got what you asked for and still complain.
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WORD.
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That looks like its gonna be really cool. Good stuff. real-privacy.eu.tc
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This is exactly what he'd say. If you watch Plinkett's review of Episode I, you hear Lucas spouting this "poetry" garbage to a group of disinterested and bedazzled cronies. "Revenge of the Sith had the worst line of the trilogy! Let's bring that line into Revenge of the Jedi! It's poetry! It rhymes!"
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Similar laughter was heard when Yoda whipped out a lightsaber in Episode II and started howling and hopping. And Lucas is the man who fought against Han saying, "I know" because he thought audiences would start laughing.
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I don't even LIKE Star Wars and this news makes me sad. It's like Gordon Lightfoot going back and re-recording his old albums instead of putting the originals on cassette. Yeah, he did that. What the fuck is it with guys have the initials "G.L."? Does it make them crazy? I'm talking to YOU, Hal Jordan!
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Now if your buying them I'll be glad to take a copy, but if I have to buy my own I will have to wait to see if he releases a Blu-Ray pack with the OT inside. It not a whine it's just that I prefer the OT and would hope he does one. He won't even know if more people would want it if we don't state that as well. Besides if I steel it from the Internet he won't receive any money for it and I would just be a common thief.
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Un-Lucasized, except for the story he wrote, the characters he created, the movie he directed, the crew he assembled, the film he produced, the style he inspired, and the legend he established. Yep. Totally un-Lucasized.
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The only regret I have in my life is the day I walked into Amoeba Records in Berkeley to sell my videotapes of the original trilogy in its original format. I want to jump in a time machine and break my leg before I have a chance to do it. I can live with just about every change he put in the new editions, but I get sick every time I see that damn scene when Greedo shoots first!
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Just like he said he wouldn't release the original movies on DVD? Yet...
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You know what? You're totally right. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
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You can get the original, non-Special Edition on: VHS widescreen (at least two different editions) VHS full screen (many editions) DVD non-anamorphic (two editions) VCD widescreen anamorphic (shop around. It's out there.) Laserdisc non-anamorphic (granted, obscure tech) VideoDisk full screen MKV in HD widescreen (look around the Internet) AVI in HD widescreen (look around the Internet) MP4 in HD widescreen (look around the Internet) Various digital formats in SD widescreen (look around the Internet) And you're all still complaining about the alleged lack of availability? Really? ON TOP OF THIS, I could swear you all proclaimed your undying hate for the Special Editions every week for the past fourteen years, and so I fail to understand why you give a shit if Lucas tweaks the Special Editions even more. If you HATE those versions, then what's the difference if he adds or subtracts from them? YOU DIDN'T LIKE THEM ANYWAY. Personally, I think Adywan's <i>Revisited</i> version is the best, followed by the originals and then the Special Editions. But you know what? Just because I have Adywan's Revisited version and the Special Editions on various media doesn't mean that my widescreen VHS copies of the originals have ceased to exist. They're still in the boxes, still in like-new condition, and still every bit the originals I remember them to be. They look pretty good on a big HDTV, too. No, they're not HD. So what? I watched Star Wars in SD for twenty-odd years and it never bothered me. I'm going to buy the Blu-ray Disc set just to spite the people who have turned this whole thing into a personal crusade against George Lucas. If I could afford it, I'd buy a hundred of them and give them away. This Lucas hate is just plain tired. The Special Editions were released 14 years ago, in 1997, and you're all still screaming bloody murder. You're not kids anymore. Get over it. Lucas doesn't <i>owe</i> you jack shit. Either buy it, or don't. Vote with your wallet. Just please stop whining about the Special Editions, already.
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I once heard a saying that (and I'm paraphrasing a little) Works of art are never completed they are just finally abandoned. When you nitpick a story, painting or whatever you will change and change. Lucas needs to back away from the story and let it be what it is. I'll hold off buying just in case he does released the OT in a boxset someday.
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As much as I hated Greedo shooting first or Han stepping on Jabba's tail, that was the thing that ticked me off the most when the news started coming out (with the innitial DVD releases) of the original Original Trilogy being no more and the Special Editions being the only option. That was pioneering special effects work. That would be like taking Jason and the Argonauts and putting in crappy CGI skelatons. You wouldn't do that to a master like Harryhausen. Why do the people who worked on the effects of Star Wars deserve any less respect? Even if you do make Special Editions, don't wash away the originals. That work deserves to be seen.
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Brings to mind comments from Nicholas Meyer on the commentary track to Star Trek II. He was discussing all of the limitations upon him when he made the film, the small budget, etc, and how such things force one to be creative in order to get around them. Of course, this all produced what many (myself included) consider to be the best Trek film ever made. Limitations do indeed breed creativity.
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I once had a girlfriend who fancied herself an artist. (I will admit she could draw pretty good...) She once related to me something an art teacher she had once told her. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the basics of it was, "When you think you just have one or two more finishing touches to make, stop. It's done as it is and anything more you do to it will just ruin it." I wish Mr. Lucas could have heeded that advice years ago...
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Sir, comparing Lucas to a cunt is an insult to the intimate bits of many fine ladies. I know that I would not be wishing to think of Mr. Lucas the next time I am being familiar with a member of the fairer sex.
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I picked a hell of a day to stop taking amphetamines.
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All of these edits and revisions have made "Star Wars" like an an aging stage actor trying to reprise the role that made them famous fifty years earlier. The old guy forgets a line here and there, ad libs lines out of dementia, and shuffles about when he should leap across the stage. It's touching to see them try, but it just ends up being embarrassing for everyone involved. It's time for "Star Wars" to stop trying to play Hamlet and accept its role as the King Lear of adventure cinema.
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yeah, i would never want them to make any changes like that, but if the story had gone the way i expected it would have at least made some sense... this is just drivel right now. i hate the ghost of young anakin...ugh
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I agree in general, except for the public's sympathy. Nerds are hardly unique in doing that. Hell, look at the party system in the US. Humans, in general, just find something to identify with and support it even if they realize they're wrong to do so.
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That "No" sounds fucking horrible. I don't know if it's his age, or GL is fucking tone death, but it sounds as if Jame Earl Jones is half asleep. Both the prequels and OT have dramatic "NO!" all over them, but the one at the end of Sith was embarrassing. And now Lucas has decided to repeat the same crap at the book end of the other trilogy. This is fucking infuriating. All of these changes and he can't give us a quality version of what we grew up with. Unfuckingbelieable.......
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Unfotunately, it's not. Darth says "NO": http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/lucasfilm-confirms-change-to-blu-ray-release-of-return-of-the-jedi/
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Well, the planar shockwave was stupid, but so popular lately.
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And don't forget the SHEER STUPIDITY of it. I mean, yeah, Anakin's redeemed or whatever, but still...What I'm saying is, why does HE get to be young again? I want to look like Ewan McGregor!
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I thought this one was nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQozw40Mso#t=00m17s
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They're his movies, yes, but they are worse. I mean, Han going from killing Greedo to being a hero by Luke and Leia's example was character development, and foreshadowed Vader's redemption. (Not that he could've had Han shoot first and been PG.) Others are neutral. Still others, when he says it's his original vision *cough*Outrider in ANH*cough*, are just insulting our intelligence.
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Whoa, that's an amazing, engaging read. I'm about halfway through. It's really amazing to learn how much Lucas's early success came from working with her! edit And it's painful as hell to read about the decline of their relationship. God.
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It's so sad and petty. :(
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Sounds like an excuse by a Lucas apologist. If it were true, he could find more subtle ways to change the movie. Why pick random annoying nonsense when there are practical, desired changes that could serve the same purpose?
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Well maybe you have stumbled on more proof that Lucas wants to destroy the image of the Force. First it was midi-chlorians. Vader was a whiny little kid and then a whiny big kid. Now, Obi Wan is actually not scary by himself.
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The texture rarely have the right reflective specularity. The computer is tracing virtual light rays on surfaces whose area would react different if they were from built on a molecular level resolution, upwards in scale rather than the blocky and smoother low resolution of materials made from normal visible scale downwards.
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http://chainsawsuit.com/2011/08/31/star-wars-is-for-toddlers-now/ more changes? no just jokes. at least I hope these don't happen.
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Smart move. I gave up with the DVD editions (not having, as Rob pointed out, actual clean anamorphic editions) but two of my friends insist on buying this. I hope this will stop them.
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Eh? I only think two out of the six movies are any good, but still adore the setting itself. It's not especially hard for me to reconcile these facts.
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I agree with you 100% that Mr. Lucas is a hack. What I want to know is why does Mr. Lucas spend money on screwing around with his old stuff when he could spend the money on something new like sequels to the original trilogy or hell go backwards to the old republic. I'd even pay to see a Force Unleashed movie, especially if Mr. Lucas does not direct it.
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Snap! I can't believe I totally forgot Airplane. I have failed for the day considering I have that sitting on my desk next to my laptop and copy of Serenity.
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I really don't get it. At this point, I'm starting to think Star Wars fans have become the most reflexively self-hating twats in ALL of geekdom. They claim to love it, and I see people cosplaying Star Wars character all the time. But bring up the movies themselves nowadays and 90% of the time, all I hear is negative. If you hate the movies so much, why call yourself a fan, then? If only one movie out of the six is still any good, then that's not much to build any sense of rabid loyalty around I would think. It's like they're in an abusive relationship; they stick around hoping things will get better, though subconsciously knowing that they won't, but refuse to admit it to themselves. So I'll say the same thing : GET OUT!!! You don't like it, you have no business being in the fandom. Pure and simple. Go and get into a franchise that you think treats its fans better. Me, I've always known from the get-go that Lucas lacked subtlety. So none of this really bothers me all that much, whereas the hardcore nerds get all apoplectic. Perspective, people. Perspective.
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Personally, I think the films were perfect with that dated 80s film making tech. The human eye is very good at detecting things that are fake, so the alien suits and vehicle models in the original trilogy are more convincing than the rampant CG of the prequels.
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This IS true. It's the secret the fans dont know, but is pretty much an open secret to production people in Hollywood. We'll never get the OT unaltered and released on thier own so long as he has to pay her for them.
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The reasoning behind it is that someone made a funny hoax video and the Geekosphere linked it as a real change in the Blu-ray Disc when it's not. It's a joke. And that's all there is to it.
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I still think it's a hoax.
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Why don't you all whine about this for another fourteen years? Because that's when the Special Edition came out. 1997. FOURTEEN YEARS you've been bitching about this. Wait. I thought you all HATED the Special Editions anyway, so what do you care if he mucks with them some more?
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Of course it's stupid, and it's a hoax. Rob lied to you.
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He probably doesn't. It's probably a hoax.
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"NOTE: The video is not from the blu-ray, I just synced up the leaked audio clip with existing video."
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I picked a hell of a day to stop sniffing glue.
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Lucas has gone completely Colonel Kurtz on us. He is mad with power.
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Similar to my Ska/Punk band, "Lightspeed to Endor!"
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I'm sorry but I can't get over how fake that "No" sounded. It seems completely out of place and unnecessary. I agree with Rob's statement that the original version conveyed Vader's turmoil much more effectively.
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The first "No" is okay, but the second is too over-the-top. I think one simple "No" right before he picks up the Emperor would have sufficed. But it doesn't really matter. Return of the Jedi was a huge disappointment to me, even back when I was a kid. In a lot of ways, the first trilogy ended with Empire for me, and I'm still waiting for the third and concluding chapter that will be as awesome as the first two.
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From the YouTube link: "NOTE: The video is not from the blu-ray, I just synced up the leaked audio clip with existing video." So it's "leaked audio". right.
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Ok, I'm out. Lucas can fuck off, I'm done buying anything he's involved with. Not because of the changes themselves (honestly, some work and some don't), but why. I think he does this as a big Fuck You to the fans. I'm George Lucas and I know what's right and I'll show you. He added in the "Nooooo" because so many people complained about it in the prequel. He's rubbing our noses in it. You want proof? The fact he won't release the OT as originally filmed. He knows people would buy it in droves and that would mean he was wrong. He can't have that.
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We, the fans, are not the only ones who deserve those unedited copies of Star Wars. What about the men and women who worked on those films? The men and women who utilized the technologies of their day to create a believable, immersible universe for us to enjoy. Their vision of the films, the one built on raw ingenuity and perseverance, should enjoy at least as much respect as the one born out of indulgence, idleness, and egotism.
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Holy crap is that true? Oh man...divorce can make a man bitter.
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Sounds like you're trolling. Athough I'll admit I didn't mind the improved expolsions in the first Special Edition release, or even the addition of previously deleted scenes like Biggs in the hanger or even digital Jabba. The things that did bother me are when they change the narrative (Han/Greedo) or impact the emotional context (the new Vader "No. Noooo!") of the scene. I'm sure we'll get the explanation that it's "symmetry" with Vader's "nooo" in RotS signifying his complete conversion to the Dark Side being echoed in RotJ with his rejection of it, and how all good storytelling through out time has used it, blah, blah, blah... but at this point I'm just under the impression that George is suffering from some sort've Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Just REMAKE the fucking films already if the originals bother you that much, because they're NEVER going to be perfect with that "dated" 80's film making tech. Yeesh.
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Corman was involved in releasing Starcrash stateside, but not in the production itself. Never knew that until I found the Corman Classics remastered DVD at my local library. If you're old enough to be nostalgic for the hype that surrounded the ORIGINAL Star Wars (not "Episode IV" "A New Hope" or whatever), when everyone was clamoring to produce a science fantasy, it's worth checking out. Plus, "Crash" is more entertaining than the entire prequel trilogy put together. "GOOD bad" as opposed to just "crap".
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So, what are the chances that the Star Wars rights will be managed by someone reasonable after Lucas' inevitable bacon-induced coronary? Someone who would re-release the original version? There's still some hope, isn't there?
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It's times like these that I'm so glad I'm a Star Trek fan over a Star Wars fan...
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Yep. I totally remember my friends and me laughing out loud at that part in the theatres. Goodtimes.
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Re: The new "NOOOOO!!!!" scene. I'm delighted Lucas made this change--see, before this I had no idea Vader objected to the idea of his son being slowly electrocuted to death with Force lightning...Now it all makes sense! Thanks for clearing that up, George!
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Yep... the original version Death Star battled sucked monkey balls compared to the improved ones. There, I said it. And if we get Greedo firing first or Biggs Darklighter porn-starring his way into a scene to get that, I'll take it. If I was Lucas, I wouldn't spend one dime of my money or one minute of my time upgrading that shit. It isn't worthy. Let fans wank to their VHS tapes until they wear out. And by the way, FUCK SHAW! I am so tired of fans treating him like he is their grandfather or something.
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Next up, Red Tails. The two trailers so far look awesome but I am afraid there will be at least one poop joke worked into the movie somewhere.
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If only there was someone on Earth who could, and would, tell George Lucas "This is a bad idea", and have him listen to them. I don't think anyone other than Steven Spielberg has ever told Lucas "don't do that, it sucks."
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Like I said, fair enough.
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Yup, that is the one I mean. I think it was the first THX remastered version. The sound and film transfers were amazing (for the time) and Lucas didn't fuck with anything! How about THAT?!?
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Personally, I look forward to the day when Plinkett comments on the changes.
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A more improved version of NOOOOO! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaQ68oUNnyI&feature=youtube_gdata
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You're saying the original version is unwatchable because the Special Edition has two better explosions? It seems to me you've been watching the wrong trilogy. I believe Michael Bay has some films that would be more to your liking.
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def agree there was no reason for them and agree with you about it screwing up suspension, just that it doesn't invalidate the energy field thing. It just says that people can't access it directly, they need the midichlorians to access it.
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STAR WARS TRILOGY Special Letterbox Collector’s Edition released in 1991 or 1992, 4 tape boxset with extras...that is the definitive un-Lucasized (TM) version.
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Every piece of news I read now about Star Wars makes it that much easier to never give Lucas another dime. We're done, Star Wars. It's not me, it's you. You've changed. :(
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EXACTLY! That's what the problem is, George Lucas demonstrably does not have a normal thought process. Fair enough, but in the original trilogy Obi Wan said it was an energy field created by all living things. I think everyone was on board with that explanation just fine. It didn't require any more suspension of disbelief than anything else in the movie. But adding the midichlorians required another layer to the suspension, it made us stop and think about it for a second and calling attention to our suspension of disbelief kills it.
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that kind of makes sense, except his next thought should have been, "nevermind who takes a barge out the front door?". not defending midichlorians but I think that they are supposed to connect living things to the force, which is still a big mysterious thing. makes them a teeny teeny bit better.
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Now wait though cause that would be a great reason to LEAVE them sounding similar...what if Obi-wan was copying the noise of the boga...added to the comment above about Sand People knowing it was Obi-wan (as opposed to the Dragon) and all of a sudden keeping the original noise makes even MORE sense...Old George is starting to go batshit insane.
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Sometimes being a fanboy feels like an abusive or one-sided relationship. Lately, being a Star Wars fan feels more like loving someone that hates my guts.
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My theory? Lucas thought about the size of the sail barge and thought "How does it get out of the palace?" Another one of those "Something no one ever really thought about because it was inconsequential things." When you start trying to inject real world logic into these movies is where it starts to fall apart. Everyone was willing to buy "mystical energy field grants us these powers and only certain people strong with that field can use them". Fine, we're with you. GO! But that wasn't plausible. So we needed to know the field is created by a species of bacterium that are present in all living things.
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I think a better example is Ridley Scott's Blade Runner blu ray. That set is a beast. Every version in existence is on it and they've all been restored.
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This post made me weep it was so well executed. Stab at his evil heart!!
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It's ok man. If you're bewildered by the clusterfuck that is the prequels and clone wars you're not alone. As much as I love Star Wars I don't bother. Maybe the story in the show is ok, but I wouldn't know. I've been meaning to give it a chance, but thinking about it just reminds me of the things I don't like about the the franchise these days. I've recently gotten back into reading some of the Expanded Universe novels. I'm reading Zahn's Admiral Thrawn trilogy over. It makes me happy. I think I might finally finish all those Young Jedi Knights books I used to read when I was younger. I think my time with Star Wars might be with the books for a while.
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On the surface I would agree with you but the Vader thing it suddenly occurred to me that Lucas truly has no concept of subtlety or nuance. That's why instead of Han shooting first, illustrating through his actions that his is a hard man living in a hard universe* he though we had to see Greedo shooting first because that was the only way anyone would know that this was a hard universe. No one would have made that connection if he hadn't shown it. Right? The audience needs their hand held the whole time because I think that's what he needs when he's being entertained. And what's sad is, where he feels he's genuinely improving things all he's doing is highlighting things no one thought twice about before. The rocks in front of Artoo? It couldn't be something small and subtle, like Artoo sucks at hiding, or that the Tuskens might not have been at all interested in the droid. It was such a tiny plot hole that I think we all just glossed over it because "Holy shit! Luke is in some peril here!" No it had to be broadly altered so we're all sucked out of the film sitting there thinking about the changes. And I don't say any of these things coming from impotent nerd rage. This is just me making inferences based on more and more of the stories of what we had in the 80's versus what we have now and becoming more aware of where the magic of the movies came from. *Heh heh. He said hard man.
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Also, I saw the above scene change. You know, I think it's past done with some of the claiming this things are part of some original vision that never got fulfilled. That's what's crazier about it. He's adding things because he's adding them. Imagine if Brian De Palma came back after a couple of decades and decided he was gonna add a cg cat for Tony and redub his death scene to have him go "I regret nothing!" as he fell into the pool. You could say he CAN, but also that it's fuckign stupid. This things are additions in the technical sense of the word only, and do not actually upgrade the experience for the audience. Because the audience felt this movies where pretty great despite the lack of blinking Ewoks. The audence felt this movies where good before CG was added to them. The audience liked them before a terrible backstory was linked to them. It's pretty clear you could release licensed Star Wars Turdburgers and people would buy. So who are this changes for?
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Star Wars, I'm over it. Do something new Lucas.
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My friend, what you need to do is check out some sort of "torrenty" site (that's what the kidz call them, right?) and download the LASER DISK VERSIONS of the first trilogy. Yes. The Laser Disk Versions (anyone under the age of 40 is scratching their heads, but basically these were record-sized DVDs...wait, records? What are those? Never mind). My friends...they are amazing. WIDE SCREEN, UNTOUCHED ORIGINALS. Sure, not Blu Ray, but still pretty darn good format.Trust me. You won't be disappointed.
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God no. I wouldn't put it past him.
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