George Lucas is an idiot and always has been. Star Wars is colossally overrated, mostly because the movie-going public are illiterate cretins who don't recognize a hammed-up tropefest when they see it.
Darth Vader was pretty cool, I wish he was in a good movie instead. Oh, wait, he's just a 3rd rate Dr. Doom with a normal IQ. NVM.
George lucas is a hand job whos suckered all you fucking geeks into buying his shit over and over and over again all for the sake of profits not artistic integrity and you guys buy i to it hook line and sinker like the little star wars sheep you are .....get off the couch use that money you would have spent on yet another rerelease of his shitty movie buy some software and a camera and make your own films or do something with your life instead of bitching about the guy who conned you out of billions of dollars ... He is a fuckin thief and u should be pissed at the fact hes taken so much money and unjust credit for something he created 30 fucking years ago !!!!!!! Move the fuck on!!!!!!!!!
I was so angry at the shoddy treatment Lucas gave both the fans and the original trilogy with that disgusting release of the, as you say, "non-fucked-with Original Trilogy in (its) inferior format". If I'd known before I bought it what he'd done, there would have been no purchase, as there hadn't been of the earlier fucked-with DVD release, and hasn't been of the new fucked-with blu-ray... I would love to watch all the extras, but not being given the option to see the real deal movies (and no, I don't think he has any right at all to fuck with Empire and Jedi... they're his productions, but they're NOT his movies, they're Kershner's and Marquand's movies) would just make me too cranky about forking out bucks (and in my mind thereby endorsing the changes) for them that I wouldn't enjoy.
Hell, I'm just grateful I didn't get ever get rid of my VHS Widescreen editions of the three original movies, because as things stand today, they're the only ones really worth watching. I just have to hope my remaining VCR doesn't give up the clappers anytime soon <crosses fingers="" knuckles="" til="" turn="" white=""></crosses>
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Eh, change is life. Star Wars was great when I was a kid, but I'm not now. I have the memories, but I'm not gonna consider them invalidated just because stuff has been changed. Lucas could put them all in tutus and I wouldn't really care since I'm not gonna bother getting the DVDs and it doesn't change the past.
Maybe Lucas should just reshoot the OT with new actors, make all the changes, add insane amounts of CGI. Then redo all the post OT movies to sync with all the new story elements. Release that. Then he can make sequels based on the Timothy Zahn novels...but please release the original movies as they were made on Bluray so everyone is happy.
Forgive me if someone else has already noted this, but...Did anyone else think of "Khaaaaan" when they heard the "Noooooo" or was it just me being perverse?
The changes make me sad.
That's why I still hang on to my Original THX edition of the original trilogy on laser disc..
The worst part is that the things he's changing aren't the REAL problems. Let's take the Ewoks, for instance. NOBODY hated the Ewoks because they didn't blink. We hated them because they were so obviously midgets wearing cheap costumes made out of carpet that restricted their movements so badly that all they could do was try not to fall down. Thus, it was completely unbelievable that they would be able to defeat stormtroopers. Want to IMPROVE them? Add some CGI ewoks jumping onto the backs of stormtroopers and leaping from trees. THAT would be cool. Blinking doesn't improve a thing.Adding the "Noooooooooo!!!" dialogue makes what was hauntingly ambiguous painfully obvious and hackneyed. What would anyone expect from a washed up hack like Lucas, though?
Who gives a fuck if the Ewoks blink. Youd rather them be more puppet like? Go watch a fucking puppet show. All of the movies are fine, who gives a shit if they make tweaks to add more to it. Quit bitching and go watch Harry fucking Potter.
Speaking as an artist I can say that you are never happy with your own work, there are any number of pictures that I wish I could go back and change. However an old tutor of mine told me something that I hold to this day, If you ever think "is it done? Does it need anything more?" That is the point at which you put the pencil down. WIthout that restraint you can very easily ruin a good peice of work simply by trying to tweak it. George Lucas needs to put the pencil down. But since its his baby, im pretty sure as long as he lives he will keep tweaking it. He was a much better film maker when he didn't have the money to tell his Editors to bugger off.
I am fine with these changes. The thing I don't understand about the "haters" is they want the original trilogy unedited, but when they got that they complain they were not edited to be anamorphic widescreen which the originals were not, and 5.1 which the originals were not. Yes I would like those too, but you got what you asked for and still complain.
I don't even LIKE Star Wars and this news makes me sad. It's like Gordon Lightfoot going back and re-recording his old albums instead of putting the originals on cassette. Yeah, he did that. What the fuck is it with guys have the initials "G.L."? Does it make them crazy? I'm talking to YOU, Hal Jordan!
The only regret I have in my life is the day I walked into Amoeba Records in Berkeley to sell my videotapes of the original trilogy in its original format. I want to jump in a time machine and break my leg before I have a chance to do it. I can live with just about every change he put in the new editions, but I get sick every time I see that damn scene when Greedo shoots first!
You can get the original, non-Special Edition on:
VHS widescreen (at least two different editions)VHS full screen (many editions)DVD non-anamorphic (two editions)VCD widescreen anamorphic (shop around. It's out there.)Laserdisc non-anamorphic (granted, obscure tech)VideoDisk full screenMKV in HD widescreen (look around the Internet)AVI in HD widescreen (look around the Internet)MP4 in HD widescreen (look around the Internet)Various digital formats in SD widescreen (look around the Internet)
And you're all still complaining about the alleged lack of availability? Really?
ON TOP OF THIS, I could swear you all proclaimed your undying hate for the Special Editions every week for the past fourteen years, and so I fail to understand why you give a shit if Lucas tweaks the Special Editions even more. If you HATE those versions, then what's the difference if he adds or subtracts from them? YOU DIDN'T LIKE THEM ANYWAY.
Personally, I think Adywan's Revisited version is the best, followed by the originals and then the Special Editions. But you know what? Just because I have Adywan's Revisited version and the Special Editions on various media doesn't mean that my widescreen VHS copies of the originals have ceased to exist. They're still in the boxes, still in like-new condition, and still every bit the originals I remember them to be. They look pretty good on a big HDTV, too. No, they're not HD. So what? I watched Star Wars in SD for twenty-odd years and it never bothered me.
I'm going to buy the Blu-ray Disc set just to spite the people who have turned this whole thing into a personal crusade against George Lucas. If I could afford it, I'd buy a hundred of them and give them away. This Lucas hate is just plain tired. The Special Editions were released 14 years ago, in 1997, and you're all still screaming bloody murder.
You're not kids anymore. Get over it. Lucas doesn't owe you jack shit. Either buy it, or don't. Vote with your wallet. Just please stop whining about the Special Editions, already.
Now if your buying them I'll be glad to take a copy, but if I have to buy my own I will have to wait to see if he releases a Blu-Ray pack with the OT inside. It not a whine it's just that I prefer the OT and would hope he does one. He won't even know if more people would want it if we don't state that as well. Besides if I steel it from the Internet he won't receive any money for it and I would just be a common thief.
I once heard a saying that (and I'm paraphrasing a little) Works of art are never completed they are just finally abandoned. When you nitpick a story, painting or whatever you will change and change. Lucas needs to back away from the story and let it be what it is. I'll hold off buying just in case he does released the OT in a boxset someday.
That "No" sounds fucking horrible. I don't know if it's his age, or GL is fucking tone death, but it sounds as if Jame Earl Jones is half asleep. Both the prequels and OT have dramatic "NO!" all over them, but the one at the end of Sith was embarrassing. And now Lucas has decided to repeat the same crap at the book end of the other trilogy. This is fucking infuriating. All of these changes and he can't give us a quality version of what we grew up with. Unfuckingbelieable.......
They're his movies, yes, but they are worse. I mean, Han going from killing Greedo to being a hero by Luke and Leia's example was character development, and foreshadowed Vader's redemption. (Not that he could've had Han shoot first and been PG.)
Others are neutral. Still others, when he says it's his original vision *cough*Outrider in ANH*cough*, are just insulting our intelligence.
http://chainsawsuit.com/2011/0...more changes?
no just jokes. at least I hope these don't happen.
I really don't get it. At this point, I'm starting to think Star Wars fans have become the most reflexively self-hating twats in ALL of geekdom. They claim to love it, and I see people cosplaying Star Wars character all the time. But bring up the movies themselves nowadays and 90% of the time, all I hear is negative. If you hate the movies so much, why call yourself a fan, then? If only one movie out of the six is still any good, then that's not much to build any sense of rabid loyalty around I would think. It's like they're in an abusive relationship; they stick around hoping things will get better, though subconsciously knowing that they won't, but refuse to admit it to themselves. So I'll say the same thing : GET OUT!!! You don't like it, you have no business being in the fandom. Pure and simple. Go and get into a franchise that you think treats its fans better. Me, I've always known from the get-go that Lucas lacked subtlety. So none of this really bothers me all that much, whereas the hardcore nerds get all apoplectic. Perspective, people. Perspective.
Eh? I only think two out of the six movies are any good, but still adore the setting itself. It's not especially hard for me to reconcile these facts.
Why don't you all whine about this for another fourteen years?
Because that's when the Special Edition came out. 1997. FOURTEEN YEARS you've been bitching about this.
Wait. I thought you all HATED the Special Editions anyway, so what do you care if he mucks with them some more?
The first "No" is okay, but the second is too over-the-top. I think one simple "No" right before he picks up the Emperor would have sufficed.
But it doesn't really matter. Return of the Jedi was a huge disappointment to me, even back when I was a kid. In a lot of ways, the first trilogy ended with Empire for me, and I'm still waiting for the third and concluding chapter that will be as awesome as the first two.
From the YouTube link:
"NOTE: The video is not from the blu-ray, I just synced up the leaked audio clip with existing video."
So it's "leaked audio". right.
Ok, I'm out. Lucas can fuck off, I'm done buying anything he's involved with. Not because of the changes themselves (honestly, some work and some don't), but why. I think he does this as a big Fuck You to the fans. I'm George Lucas and I know what's right and I'll show you. He added in the "Nooooo" because so many people complained about it in the prequel. He's rubbing our noses in it. You want proof? The fact he won't release the OT as originally filmed. He knows people would buy it in droves and that would mean he was wrong. He can't have that.
So, what are the chances that the Star Wars rights will be managed by someone reasonable after Lucas' inevitable bacon-induced coronary? Someone who would re-release the original version? There's still some hope, isn't there?
Re: The new "NOOOOO!!!!" scene.
I'm delighted Lucas made this change--see, before this I had no idea Vader objected to the idea of his son being slowly electrocuted to death with Force lightning...Now it all makes sense!
Thanks for clearing that up, George!
If only there was someone on Earth who could, and would, tell George Lucas "This is a bad idea", and have him listen to them. I don't think anyone other than Steven Spielberg has ever told Lucas "don't do that, it sucks."
Every piece of news I read now about Star Wars makes it that much easier to never give Lucas another dime. We're done, Star Wars. It's not me, it's you. You've changed. :(
My friend, what you need to do is check out some sort of "torrenty" site (that's what the kidz call them, right?) and download the LASER DISK VERSIONS of the first trilogy. Yes. The Laser Disk Versions (anyone under the age of 40 is scratching their heads, but basically these were record-sized DVDs...wait, records? What are those? Never mind). My friends...they are amazing. WIDE SCREEN, UNTOUCHED ORIGINALS. Sure, not Blu Ray, but still pretty darn good format.Trust me. You won't be disappointed.
my god, it sounds so pasted in doesn't it?
If I didn't sorta trust rob I would have sworn this was a "fan" edit.
agree with the rest too, t just sounds silly. a short little "no" would have been... ok-ish but that long drawn out "noooooo" just didn't work.
I used to complain about how much I hated the Special Editions and how Lucas's changes has continually worsened the brilliance of the original trilogy. Then I downloaded torrents of the original versions of Eps IV-VI and watch them on my iPad and anamorphically on my TV. They may not be HD, but they are not poor quality either - they are good enough to introduce to my kids as the real "Star Wars."
We'll start with the Original un-"improved" Trilogy, then move onto the Clone Wars series. Maybe when they are good and established in the best parts of Star Wars, I'll introduce the prequels. Then again, they have enough evil in the world that they will face in their lifetimes...
I think we all know in our hearts what's happened, I mean it's obvious really, we try to deny it but the signs are right in front of us... George Lucas is the Dark Lord of the Shit. He was seduced by the dark side of film creation and editing in the late 80's. All the changes that he has made to the original trilogy have suited his own purpose, not the great Republic of Star Wars fans. We have been blinded from from this truth due to his manipulation of the force of nostalgia long enough. It's about time this rag tag group of rebel nerds on ToplessRobot go to the Death Sta.. Uh I mean Skywalker ranch and demand a Blu Ray version of the untamperred original trilogy or at the very least shove a Yoda, Master Replicas lightsaber up his Dark side ass in trying... Who's with me!
It really shouldn't be allowed to change movies and then not label them with a new edition notice because technically you're not buying that original movie.
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