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Okay, this isn't the end of the world. Affleck has actually directed two pretty good dramas, Gone Baby Gone and The Town. If The Stand were a 300-page crime thriller we'd actually be in great shape. Of course, The Stand isn't a 300-page crime thriller, but a 2,000-page apocalyptic, supernatural horror-drama. Moreover, the plan was for WB to make three Stand movies, and Affleck hasn't even directed three movies yet (he's finishing #3 right now).
Again, Affleck has shown himself to be a pretty solid director, so I'm not going to freak out. I do wonder why, however, WB's last choice to handle this project -- David Yates, the guy who made the last few Harry Potter movies, and who did pretty well with them -- suddenly seemed a poorer choice than Ben Affleck. Odd to say the least. (Via /Film)
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No, Rob, "The Stand" is one approximately 1,000 page novel split into three parts. If he does the logical thing and makes each third its own movie, it's not unreasonable that it could potentially be fantastic. As you said, he's a very solid director, so until we hear about some batshit change decided upon by either Affleck or the meddling executives, I'm going to be cautiously optimistic.
Of course, no matter what happens, I'm pretty certain it will end up better than the shitty television miniseries from the '90s...
You can get Scorsese to direct and still don't think it'll work, the Stand is just too huge and sweeping to fit into a big-screen film. True, you'd get more of the outbreak itself and such but still doubt you can capture its power in a big-screen series.
Who the hell could he play? I gotta say, if they stick him as Stu I'll be a little upset; he just doesn't portray the folksy simplicity or trustworthiness he'd need for the part. Maybe the singer (whose name I can't remember)? Or Nick? Or Lloyd? Personally, I'd like to see what he'd do with a roll like the Trashcan Man. That could be really awesome.
Ben Affleck playing Larry Underwood? Or Nick? Absolutely not. He's too old, Larry is around 27 and nick is around 22. Ben Affleck is 39 and looks it. And can you imagine him playing a deaf mute? Haha.
Also anyone that thinks the mini series was any good is out of their freakin gourd. The acting sucked and almost every character was cast poorly.
3 movies should be enough to cover the material of the book and do it justice IMO. The scope of the story is not too grand for 3 movies. The book is also separated into 3 "books" or parts. The first being the outbreak, the second being the traveling across the country to boulder/vegas and the third being the guys going to vegas and what not. I don't see how that is to much for 3 movies.
Oh, believe me, I'm not saying that this will be good in any capacity or that Affleck can pull off ANY roll from the book. I was just wondering who they'd stick him as to gauge exactly how screwed up these movies will be.
He is so not evil enough to play Randall Flagg. But you're right, it could be interesting.
I don't know. He plays slimey well. See Mallrats and Dogma for 2 examples. Flagg was good;looking, charismatic, but kind of slimey. I could see him pulling it off, even though he wouldn't be my choice.
Affleck is a good director. As long as the source material is about what he knows. So, if we want this to be any good, all the characters that were scattered around the country will have to be from Boston, trek around the city of Boston, and finally congregate all together in Boston, and then have a final showdown in the town square of Boston. It should be wicked awesome.
Instead of going from all around the country to Boulder, they can go from the suburbs to Boston. Fran can be from Leominster and Stu can be from Lynn. And, instead of Vegas, the evil people can go to Nashua, NH. And Lloyd Henreid can break out of the Bridgewater Correctional Institute.
Lynn, Lynn, city of sinYou never come out the way you went in.
Also... isn't New Hampshire already filled with evil people?
And Ben Affleck filming something around Boston? I just don't see it.
While i do agree with you switching from Yates to Affleck is a head scratcher, and like you said he has shown to be quite a capable director (personally I would say he is a good director). He may be up to the challenge, directing may be where his talent lies. It certainly isn't acting.
now now if you have a bad movie then he's your guy for the bad actor. plus gigli. that will be around for ever and ever and ever.
Good God this site has the worst kind of nerds. "Ewww Ben Affleck?" The Town was really good and Gone Baby Gone was fantastic. He's a seriously competent director and either one of his movies is better than any of the Harry Potter movies.
I've always felt Ben Affleck had some nerd cred deep down, even though he looks like a jock. So I'm fine with him taking on The Stand.
What's still remain unclear is if this is a "directing only" type of gig, or is he going to star in it as well? Because from what I've seen in "The Town", Affleck does a HELL of a lot better job in directing instead of acting.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt (mostly for Gone Baby Gone) but I really hope he doesn't decide to cast himself as Stu.
Maybe they figure the Stand is going to suck, anyway, and why not pass it off to Ben Affleck? The poor guy has suffered all sorts of grief thanks to being the "dumb one" in his best friendship with Matt Damon, to being JLo's lap dog. Screwing up the Stand will just be another feather in his supposed dunce cap. It seems like the Stand is one of those projects that is just so vast that Hollywood continually figures it can't do it justice, and it seems a bit like Dune, too, wherein the zeitgeist has passed. A know for a while, people loved the Stand and everything by Stephen King, but now he just seems like any other working writer and the Stand is the subject of mocking articles about its length.
'The poor guy has suffered all sorts of grief thanks to being the "dumb one" in his best friendship with Matt Damon, to being JLo's lap dog'
As I mentioned above, that opinion of Ben Affleck has been chucked away somewhat since he took up directing.
Short answer: Affleck probably committed to less up front money. The Potter guy knows he has a track record of making movies that draw children (ignoring the fact that it's Harry Potter, so two hours of the animatronic corpse of John Houseman flipping pages while Hagrid farts the Battle hymn of the Republic would have drawn money), so he's probably asking for a big chunk of change up front, while I'm sure Affleck took a percentage of the back end.
Hah. Back end.
Ben Affleck isn't something to necessarily worry about; agreed. He's proven to me he can direct good films.
Plus, doesn't he have a screenwriting Oscar he co-won with Matt Damon? So he's not unfamiliar with working behind the camera.
Ugh. The Stand had an ending so laughably shitty, it permanently turned me off to Stephen King. I can only hope Affleck "strays from the source material."
I felt that way about the whole supernatural aspect as well. I usually need that right out in the open from the start if I'm going to be able to lower my suspension of disbelief. I can drop myself into a VERY improbable but at least still possible situation. But then just having the story scream "Oh, and magic is real now you guys! IT'S SPOOKY!" just ruined it for me. Even when I was in high school. My tolerance for that kind of thing has if anything plummeted even further since then.
Agreed. I was just watching some of the mini series again a week ago on SyFy Channel. It was probably two hours too long, but pretty good. But then I thought about the ending, which I didn't catch this time, and I remembered the disappointment of such a deus ex machina ending. It would be like having Luke Skywalker racing down the Death Star trench, but he doesn't have to actually fire his lasers, because God comes out of nowhere and blows up the Death Star for him.
guess warners wanted some one with some cred already to help them do the stand. worse thing ben proves he is a good director and tries to stay true to the stand as much as possible. makes it suceed. or ben fails and screws up the stand and joins kubric as one of the few people steven king can not stand their version of his work. we just have to wait and see what ben does with the stand
The Stand miniseries wasn't perfect, but there's no need to remake it as a series of movies. King's stuff generally translates to the miniseries format better than movies anyway, and quite frankly there's never going to be a better Trashcan Man than Matt Frewer's dead-on depiction.
Agreed.The Shining mini-series was head and shoulders above the movie - which relied heavily on Nickelson's over the top performance to carry it and was completely disrespectful of the source matter.
The Shining movie was fine (for a movie) except that it discarded EVERYTHING save for the broad strokes of the book in favor of an over the top performance. That doesn't make it bad.The mini series captures the authors intent which stems from King's pained childhood jealousy over one his friend's drunken abusive father, because King never knew his at all. It's a deep book.The movie was a triumph of style over substance. The supernatureal stuff in his books is window dressing for some painful dredging of emotion. King has always written over my head (I hate his books, they make me aware how stupid I am, I know there's something there, but I can't wrap my head around it) which is why I liked the mini-series, it dumbed it down so I can grasp it.
Generally translates to the miniseries format better? I know the hit rate for King film adaptations is by no means 100% (*cough*DreamcatcherGraveyardShift*cough*) but on the film side of things I can think of Carrie, The Shining, Stand By Me, Misery and The Shawshank Redemption. On the miniseries front...er...
the shining had kubrick and nickelson, carrie was by brian de palma, misery had james caan, shawshank had great actors and solid script, what does this (potential) set of flicks have? ben affleck? this is going to blow so hard it will rip a hole into the fabric of space and time itself.
Geez, yeah my bad. I don't know why I wrote Green Lantern. Had a blonde moment or something there for a sec. And Maximum Overdrive DID NOT suck. It was entertaining. And relatively cheesy. I happen to like cheesy movies.
Avatar was a HUGE goddamn hit and just fawned over by critics and most average people. I thought that majorly sucked.
Sucked. Great. Etc. All a matter of opinion. I'm entitled to mine, like you are yours. Now say not another word about Maximum Overdrive, or the Green Goblin Western Star will get you while you sleep. Tis the season.
EDIT: Wrote Lantern again. I am not a fan of the character, hated the movie. I don't know why it's on my mind at all and thus the repeating of the incorrect word.
That truck had the face of the Green GOBLIN, not Green Lantern! Oh, and "Maximum Overdrive" sucked.
You must still be stuck in 2003 or thereabouts - Ben Affleck may not be Kubrick, but he has directed two pretty good films to date and has earnt a lot of respect considering after Gigli most people thought he was finished. it's not like they're chasing Paul W Anderson or Uwe Boll for the film.
And lest we forget, Maximum Overdrive (while incredibly cheesy) was still good (IMO). That had King directing (not too mention the great cameo where the ATM called him an "asshole", repeatedly), Emilio Estevez and a great Western Star with the Green Lantern's face on it.
I'd much rather watch that than The Stand (as it may be). Have you guys seen Affleck lately? He looks beyond cracked out. I wouldn't trust that guy with my wallet, much less something as grand as directing multiple "The Stand" movies.
I have a fair amount of respect for Affleck the director. Looking forward to his interpretation of the material.



