...during an MTV News interview regarding his role in “Miracle at St. Anna,” actor Derek Luke let slip that a very prominent - and surprising - face could be the star of Marvel Studios’ next blockbuster film. “I heard they offered Will Smith ‘Captain America,’” said Luke, adding that the intriguing casting rumor “just shows you how times have changed.”
Okay. Let's work through this together.
• I don't even know who Derek Luke is, let alone why he would know what Marvel or
Will Smith is up to. I imagine his "Hollywood sources" are much in line with Julie Newmar's, which is to say her cats. In fact, Newmar's cats may also be talking to Luke directly. Somebody needs to check on these cats. The point is, there's no reason to trust Luke's word on this.
• If Will Smith has been offered the part, I can't imagine he won't take it. He might be busy, but he's not going to say no because he's not white enough. Him taking the role would be a seriously big deal in the world of race and mass media, let alone our little nerd/comics world.
• If you publicly disagree with this potential casting, someone will call you a racist. I've been trying to figure out some kind of excuse as to why this isn't so, but I've come up with nothing. I'll keep you posted.
• Actually, we're all probably racist. I don't see how we can get around this.
• If Will Smith does end up as Cap, Black Panther is totally screwed.
Comments
Amy M. said:
This would certainly make a stir if Smith accepts the role, though I think it is a long shot that this is: a. true or b. a role Smith would want to take as he has said he has been offered a lot of comic book roles and turned most of them down.
But I think this could work. Smith is really the best example of a wholesome, all-American superstar. And he has been both kind of scrawny and big and buff in his roles, which would suit him for the physical transformation to Captain America. If it did happen, I just hope it turns out better than his last race reversal role in Wild Wild West.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 11:45:52 AM
Steve Rogers said:
Wild Wild West sucked.
Independence Day sucked.
I Am Legend sucked.
Hancock sucked.
So Marvel, after hitting one out of the ballpark with Iron Man, wants to go back to sucking again?
And racial politics be damned, Captain America is a blond haired caucasian. Always has been, always should be because that's how Simon and Kirby created him.
Give Will Smith the Falcon role if they want him in the film so bad. Better yet, keep him out. He'd just jinx the movie like nearly everything else he's been in.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 11:51:11 AM
dksp said:
News Flash--Captain America Opens Scientologist School!
That is why I would complain about him as the cap'n, not cause of his skin color. I mean, black people have plenty of reasons to want to punch Hitler in the face, too.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 12:03:49 PM
GeekBoy said:
Yeah, racism aside, this doesn't make sense to me if they're sticking to the World War 2 setting -- which is what I've heard they're doing. Because neither the Army nor the U.S. Government were as enlightened back then as they (theoretically) are now, and I just don't see them choosing to super-enhance a non-Caucasian.
Not to mention, they'd probably be shooting themselves in the foot, because (realistically) we as a society still aren't all that enlightened yet, and this casting choice would alienate a lot of potential movie-goers. To give you some perspective, I recently saw somebody on a blog complaining about the possible casting of John Barrowman (Captain Jack from Doctor Who) in the role of Cap, because he's A) British and B) gay. What do you think that person will think of this choice? And if people don't like the casting, 90% of them won't even bother to reveal themselves as racist -- they just won't bother to see it. And I doubt that's a risk the studio is willing to take.
Thirdly, Smith just did the superhero thing in Hancock. Would he really want to do it again so soon?
Posted 09/08/2008 at 12:11:18 PM
Zach Oat said:
Yes, Smith has clearly "jinxed" all of his films, as all but three of them have made over $100 million. What a jinx he is. And clearly, all of America despised "Independence Day," hating it so much they went to see it a dozen times each. Let's look at the facts:
Was "Wild Wild West" a great film? No.
Was it fun and goofy? Yes.
Did it make a lot of money, because Smith is popular? Yes.
Did Smith write "Wild Wild West"? No.
Do I want "Captain America" to be fun and goofy? No.
Can Smith play serious roles? Yes.
Would he make the movie a ton of money? Yes.
BUT: Is Will Smith Steve Rogers? Hell, no.
BUT BUT: Could they come up with a Cap origin that makes sense, maybe making Smith one of the prototype caps, who got lost on a mission and was unfrozen today? Absolutely.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 12:20:27 PM
FistyDollars said:
No. NO NO NO NO NO. BAD IDEA. This will absolutely freaking ruin EVERYTHING Marvel's tried to do with their new movie universe. I will not watch this.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 12:43:36 PM
Zac said:
Breaking News: a lot of nerds are pretty goddamn racist
Posted 09/08/2008 at 12:50:49 PM
Steve Rogers said:
To: Zach Oat
Just because something is popular with your average moronic movie goer doesn't make it good. If Marvel wants to be sure that their Cap film makes a ton of money, then yeah, Will Smith would be one way to go.
But can't they make a good movie that also makes them a ton of money? What worked for Iron Man (sticking to the comics) will work for Cap. Having a major Marvel character like Cap recreated as anything but the blond haired Steve Rogers is bad.
And what does hollywood have against blond super-heroes? Next thing you know Flash Gordon will be recast as a dumpy asian interior decorator.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 12:52:02 PM
emileo foksbottum said:
They're just following the Time Honoured Tradition of, well, apparently throwing a dart at the board when it comes to choosing cast members. The 90's Batman did this in reverse order when Harvey Dent lost all his melanin pigmentation from the first movie (Billie Dee) to the third (Tommy Lee) all BEFORE the poor sap got hit in the face with corrosive acids.
Someone in Marvel is taking acid, I think though. Kingpin, Electra (she went from Spanish to White!)and I think I heard something about Nick Fury losing his Honkey-dom too but I'm not sure.
Not a big fan of all his movies but I like Mr. Smith and he does have that wholesomeness that no one else seems to possess, and people like me are just too disenchanted to believe in anymore sadly.
Not a big Cap. fan, but I think they should consider story continuity or similaritude BEFORE looking for a Big Name to tag on. The sad truth is that comic book heroes of yesteryear are predominantly white; American, European and soforth, at least until the late 70's when a few (token) members of "other" colors were admitted.
But at least they didn't say Ben Affleck!
Posted 09/08/2008 at 01:26:41 PM
Friginator said:
@emileo foksbottum: Movie Nick Fury is not based on the regular white version, he's based on the Ultimate comics version. Elektra was greek in the comics, and though Jennifer Garner is white, she maintains that origin in the movie.
Captain America should NOT be black in WWII. I don't care who calls me a fucking racist. I'm not. These retards love creating controversy because either they're douchebags or genuinely delusional. Fuck political correctness.
Again, WWII Cap should NOT be black. It makes no sense to the time period. This is just an example of how political correctness has clouded our judjement.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 01:43:54 PM
Arcane said:
Second on Isaiah Bradley, but he is not your first movie Cap. Actually, he's not worth a movie really, just watch Rosewood and replace syphilis with super-serum. Will Smith wouldn't jump for the kinda backseat Isaiah would get.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 02:02:49 PM
Friginator said:
My pick would be the army guy from Transformers. Y'know, the one that had, like, a baby or something? Michael Bay sucks at character development.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 02:16:38 PM
WamBam said:
Why does Captain America have to be white? Oh, yea, it wouldn't be historically 'accurate' because America wouldn't use a black guy when creating a PERSON WITH SUPER HUMAN POWERS. Yea, I see what's implausible about that. I guess it wasn't until after the civil rights movement that America started experimenting with non-whites...
Will Smith = $$$$$ and green is the only color Hollywood cares about.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 02:43:12 PM
Friginator said:
I have a hard time believing that in 1941 a black man would be chosen to lead our troops overseas. WamBam, I don't see how a black superhero would be plausible in 1941, at least if he's supposed to represent And just because it's a superhero movie doesn't mean it's got to be unrealistic. Also, Captain America DOESN'T EVEN HAVE SUPER HUMAN POWERS. His only ability is enhanced physical endurance, but he's not super-strong or indestructible or anything. I don't think anyone understands how intense racial issues were in the mid-20th century. All the segregation, prejudice, and bitterness of the past 100 years was coming to a head, eventually culimnating it the Civil Rights Movement of the early 60's. In the 40's, just the idea of a black man representing America would cause a violent backlash of lynching and riots. White people just wouldn't take it.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 02:58:46 PM
Earl Washington said:
For all yee of little knowledge the first Captain America, Isaiah Bradley was black, as depicted in the 2003 limited series "Truth: Red, White & Black". So if they want to do an avengers movie they can definitely make Captain America black... heck even Nick Fury is black now, I say make all the avengers black! Black hawkeye, black thor, black wonderman, black wasp (tiny pixy big booty, oh yeah!), black widow (OK that doesn't work as much)and an even blacker black panther.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 04:00:22 PM
Friginator said:
I'm well aware of Red White & Black, but Isaiah Bradley was never officially Captain America. If they want to give Will Smith a cameo/small role in the film AS Isaiah Bradley, I'm fine with that. But if WWII(presumably Rogers, I hope.) Cap is balck, there's no way to do that and still be realistic or faithful to the comic.
As for the All-New, All-Black Avengers: DON'T GIVE DWAYNE MCDUFFY ANY MORE STUPID IDEAS! HE'S BAD ENOUGH ALREADY!
You would think that McDuffie, a huge advocate of more black characters in comics, would actually be the one to make boring black characters (Such as Storm or John Stewart) interesting, but NO!
Posted 09/08/2008 at 04:12:33 PM
Uncle Soaky said:
Oh yeah? It wouldn't be a big deal if Captain America was black? Then I'm sure no one would mind if we made Black Panther a red-headed Irishman, right?
Posted 09/08/2008 at 05:04:20 PM
Juice said:
I'm down with pushing the studio for a pasty white can't go out in the sun Irishmen playing Black Panther.
If he wasn't English Daniel Craig would be my vote. But that would just be unamerican.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 05:33:04 PM
Snoodle said:
I know he's really busy and Scottish and all, but I miss the days when John Barrowman's name was floated around for the role :p
Will Smith...can we just face facts Hollywood? Will's style of acting does not work well in a comic book setting.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 05:50:40 PM
Chris said:
Ummm......all you guys are gay.
Problem with you nerds is that you can't accept change. It freaks you out because too much of your childhood was spent with this stuff instead of playing outside and making friends. This is just as bad as when all you dip shits freaked out over Optimus Prime being a Mack truck instead of a Peterbilt. In the end it didn't matter what kind of truck he was the movie just sucked.
A good Cap America movie will be a good Cap America movie regardless of the color of the actors skin.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 06:41:43 PM
fartface ballsack said:
some of you people are crazy
IT'S NOT A FUCKING BLACK CHARACTER
end of story.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 06:58:02 PM
General Tekno said:
The fundamental problem with making Captain America black, as stated above, is that the first movie with him is gonna be set in WWII.
If he had a different origin, I would be more likely to be on board with this... I like Will Smith. But let's face it - it doesn't work with the time.
Plus, there's the whole irony in the Allies having the Ubermensch that represents the Nazi ideals on their side.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:06:09 PM
Mike said:
Why does everybody bring race into this? Does anybody realize that Will Smith is not a good actor?
Another thing, why is he being thrown into all of these cool Sci-Fi movies?
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:09:28 PM
paul maclellan said:
This will just be another movie on my list of movies i will only watch if someone pays me 10$ per hour. Sadly 90% of these movies belong to Wil Smith. I love Captian America and I am Canadian, lol. But damn people, why do you like this guy so much? He really can't act, and is very 1 demensional. People only watched Independence Day for the special effects....seeing the White House blown up was the best part of the movie.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:16:19 PM
Anonymous said:
I had heard that Brad Pitt and Aaron Eckhart were fighting for the role of cap
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:19:27 PM
Jesse James said:
LOL, yeah ok whatever. A Back Captain America? LOL, thats just too funny!
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Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:19:55 PM
CockMeat said:
I know 1 reason.
Because he was Hancock already.. Now we're not racist lol
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:20:56 PM
Comic Fan said:
I thought that Brad Pitt and Aaron Eckhart were fighting for the role of cap. And yeah I don't see smith doing hancock and then jumping into another superhero movie role so soon.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:21:57 PM
RMR said:
I think having someone of a hispanic background playing Captain America would make a bigger statement.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:31:57 PM
Don Hansen said:
Actually, It would make a lot of sense if Captain America was black, historically, African-americans were experimented on a lot throughout history.
Quote:
Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present
Most readers of Psychiatric Services are familiar with the notorious Tuskegee Syphilis Study, where 399 African American men with syphilis were studied by the United States Public Health Service to observe the course of the disease. Treatment for study participants was not only withheld but actively suppressed by the experimental team. The study began in the 1930s and continued until the early 1970s, when Peter Buxton, a young Polish immigrant who worked as a venereal disease interviewer for the Public Health Service, publicly blew the whistle after he was unable to prevail upon the Public Health Service to stop the experiment.
As shocking as that incident was, Harriet Washington amply documents how it was but one of many medical abuses committed against African Americans throughout United States history and probably was not the worst. In fact, Washington describes a multifaceted pattern of racist and unethical medical practice, largely unknown to most people in the United States—particularly those who have not experienced racial oppression—with devastating consequences for the well-being of millions of African-American citizens. This practice led to a health "chasm" between blacks and whites and eroded the trust of many African Americans in the medical system to this day.
from: http://psychservices.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/58/10/1380
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:33:59 PM
Chad said:
I heard Marvel signed Will Ferral for the role of Black Panther in the Avengers movie....yeah sure.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:37:06 PM
Unkle Steve said:
I'd much rather see a no-name actor as Captain America. Just some random dude, getting the break of his life, and knocking it out of the park.
I'm sick of seeing superstars jammed into whatever role their managers can wrangle for them. Sometimes it works, but usually...not so much.
Will Smith has chops, when he feels like picking a decent script. Isn't often, but he can actually act when he feels like it.
But who cares? If they cast him, it's not Captain America...it's a Will Smith Summer Blockbuster Movie. And that will overshadow Cap by a longshot.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:42:52 PM
Arkiel said:
The first American super-soldier was black. He's the grandfather of Patriot. Turn him into Captain America, that would give you enough racial subplot to flesh out the rest of this period-piece comic story.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:48:45 PM
Anonymous said:
i dont think it would be impossible to make a beleivable story where a black man is selected to be a test subject in the super soldier experiment. steve rogers wasn't picked for any reason other than he was different from all the other people the experiment failed on. why does everyone think the army would never test someone who was black for an experiment? He was just supposed to be the first of many captain americas, they werent setting out to make a super hero, they were just hoping to get the thing to work.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 07:50:10 PM
Drewby said:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/05/09/captain-americas-shield-found-in-iron-man/
hey guys, (and gals)
Your all very amusing reading the anti-black Captain America stuff its really interesting..but the big problem is the time, everyone thinks it will be set. (WWII) read the article I found.. I think a black Capt. America might work..should tony stark screw all you comic nuts (no lube) lol enjoy. good night.
p.s.
Anyone who bitches about "a racial issue" can blow me...The Original Cpt. was white as some of the others stated already. If you have an issue with "civil right, etc" please email the dwindling list of true civil rights leaders and activist and bitch there. g'nite twice.
- drewby
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:08:46 PM
Roffe said:
The army did experiment on black people; but the American Government using a black person as a poster boy for the war effort?
Captain America was a propaganda tool at a time when the American government was incredibly, utterly, and insanely racist. Politicians back then fought in favor of lynching. It simply isn't believable for Jim Crow America to tolerate a black person as the icon of the WW2 war effort. That's why Will Smith as Captain America doesn't work -- not in the Steve Rogers incarnation.
It's a damn shame too, because if it wasn't for the historical disconnect, I think he really would make a good Captain America. He's got wholesome down pat.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:21:49 PM
Rhawk187 said:
I didn't read the rest of the comments, so just some food for though.
I don't think it's a good idea. Of course, I've always preferred staying true to the source material. Of course this can be a good or a bad thing. Thomas Jane looked just like The Punisher should look, and didn't necessarily make the best movie.
Will Smith would do a fine job, and it wouldn't ruin it for me, but there's no point. Will Smith should be in the movie, but as The Falcon.
I'm find with them using Sam Jackson as Ultimate Nick Fury, as opposed to David Hasselhoff's Nick Fury. It's true(ish) to comic. (not a big ultimate fan, but he's actually supposed to be Egyptian, right?)
Black Panther is a huge deal in the modern marvel universe.
Everyone is going to pan for a Hal Jordan version of the Green Lantern, but Will Smith would do a fine version of the John Stewart version of Green Lantern.
People have called making Sarah Palin VP the worst case of pandering every, this would top it.
But I mean I suppose fair is fair. Let's case Nick Cage as Luke Cage next... I mean he is his namesake after all.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:23:18 PM
Harry said:
I have an idea. Lets just make Captain America a woman too! Cause, you know, if you are against the idea you must have something against equality and women's rights.
Anyway, this guy always seems to be in movies that end up being fucked in the ass due to dumbed down mainstreaming. Last obvious example? The horrible work they did with Legend, specially the end (vs the alternative one).
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:29:29 PM
Tim said:
Why does his religion always come up in discussion for movie roles. In this instance Captain America represents American patriotism and fights for the freedoms of our country. Freedom to practice religion without persecution is one of those. I happen to think he would bring a level of depth to Captain America that few people can, but as a comic book fan I think it's bad. Captain America is white and should be played by a white actor. I'm black and I'd be upset if they cast a white guy to play Blade, Black Panther or Luke Cage.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:31:12 PM
Tyrone Biggums said:
NOT TRUE
Possibly an attempt to get traction on Digg (it worked).
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:44:18 PM
rocker3010 said:
If you think Will Smith shouldnt be the star of cap. America then your all racist! Everybody know that Will Smith is one the best actors out there (just check the millions any of his movies made there always the top of the box office. you assholes think because cap. America in the comic was white automatically means that any other race or color it not electable for this role. You might as well go kill millions of people and call yourself HITTLER!! because that how racist your should to me!!! FUCK YOU!!
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:50:41 PM
Jesh said:
I think this is just plain wrong. Keeping true to the spirit of the character/hero is important.
I don't mind when sidekicks or villains are changed (The Kingpin, NickFury, etc) but Captain America was blonde and Caucasian. There's nothing racist about wanting to see a true representation of the character and don't let anyone tell you different. I would be equally against a Black superhero being changed to a white guy. Could you imagine the Black Panther being played by a white guy from Cape Town? We grew/grow up with the characters and have an investment in seeing them true to their origins. Captain America is white. Deal with it. I wouldn't even be happy with him being a brunette.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:52:22 PM
rocker3010 said:
sorry that should say (sound NOT should at the end!!)
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:53:39 PM
Anonymous said:
Will Smith as Capt America would rock.
I like Will.
But then kids will be all confused why is Hancock cross dressing as capt America Daddy?
Posted 09/08/2008 at 08:58:56 PM
rayray said:
1st of all as a black man I myself would think that it would be weird to see Cap as a black man. It would be the 1st time a main character would do a race switch. Although minor characters have been known to do it.
Catwoman - White in the comics; white then black on the T.V.; white in Batman Returns; black in her own movie.
Harvey Dent - White in comic; black in Batman; white in Batman forever & The Dark Knight.
In Spawn Al Simmons' friend Terry - Black in comic; white in movie.
Nick Fury - White in Marvel; white in T.V. movie; black in Ultimate Marvel; black in Iron Man & future Marvel related movies.
So what Captain America will be played by a black guy. Some how I don't think he'll be offended, and that's probably because HE'S NOT REAL!!! He's a character in a comic book. Which means the director, writer or production company are free to take whatever liberties they see fit to get the best product on the market. Will Smith sells tickets. If he had one scene eating a bowel of cereal the movie would make 30mil.
As far as him doing 2 hero movies Hale Berry did 2 X-Men then Catwoman then another X-men.
Personally there's no one in Hollywood that I can think of to play this part including Will Smith. Can you?
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:01:17 PM
Monica said:
I will agree with the masses in that Cap is most widely known as a white male and there is nothing racist about wanting your childhood hero to appear as he was always presented to you. I MUST disagree in the claims that "he's a great actor and all, but..."
Will Smith? Great actor? The man plays himself in every movie. Same bullshit attitude, same shit-eating grin, same arrogant glower. I respect his acting about as much as I respect the man. Which is none.
Too lanky, too urban, too disrespectful, too Will Smith.
Luckily, I find no credibility in the source.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:04:44 PM
CouchGuy said:
What's the big deal? Marvel itself "recast" Nick Fury as a black man in the comics. I'll take Samuel L. Jackson over David Hasselhoff in that role any day, wouldn't you? Smith has the acting chops (see "I Am Legend"), & I have no trouble believing that the US might use black volunteers (or even non-volunteers) during WWII to test a dangerous serum that might well kill the test subject. The serum works on one man -- who is destined to be the only super-soldier of his kind. If he's a white, blond muscleman it is easy to wrap him in a flag and make him the symbol of America. How much more interesting to watch a black soldier show the world that heroism and the spirit of the American fighting man knows no color barrier. I want to see THAT movie!
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:31:33 PM
God said:
"" Steve Rogers said:
Wild Wild West sucked.
Independence Day sucked.
I Am Legend sucked.
Hancock sucked.""
Wild Wild West = $222,104,681
Independence Day = $817,400,891
I Am Legend = $584,151,304
Hancock = $560,193,256
Bottom line Steve, Bottom line.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:36:59 PM
Bruh'man said:
I'm Black. I enjoy Will Smith's movies. However, it makes no sense to cast Will as Captain America. In Marvel's WWII, the Captain was the blonde, blue-eyed American great and just-as-white hope in opposition to Hitler's Aryan super suckers.
The Army was segregated at time, kiddies. They weren't making any Negro SuperSoldiers, no matter how much fun it might have been if they had.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:38:59 PM
paul said:
Why not just cast Dakota Fanning and be done with it? or am I being too sexist if I think Captain America should be played by a man?
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:44:37 PM
Onyx Blackman said:
Smith seems to making a minor career out of turning white characters black (Wild Wild West, I am Legend), so the idea of him playing Cap is possible. Bur really, given EVERYTHING ELSE we know about the film, who the fuck really thinks this is true? Their is no way they are going to retool the Cap origin just so they could explain how Cap is black (one word: Skrull).
Still, I would gladly pay money to see the fresh prince as cap, but only if dj jazzy jeff has a cameo as USAGENT.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 10:17:36 PM
Kevin said:
I don't think it's racist wanting a character to look on the screen like he does in the comic books. I'd like to see a Captain America who's white and has blond hair, since that what he's always looked like. If you think that's racist, you're overreacting. I wouldn't want to see a white guy play Luke Cage or Blade, either.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 10:48:57 PM
legham said:
What would be really great is if they could get Martin Lawrence to play the Falcon, oh yeah get it all up my face in here, oh no he di'ent!!
Is there any way we could maybe shoehorn Angelina in as well, I don't care if they just make up a character for her, whatever, I just like celebrities.
While we're at it make sure Cap's shield has a FUBU endorsement on it.
Oh and it would be soooo hilarious if Jack Black played Hitler, hilaaaarious. Please please please let Micheal Bay direct, nobody else will be able to capture the essence the character at the same time they make you pay $12 for a plastic cup of ice and coke at the candy shop.
Posted 09/08/2008 at 11:56:42 PM
Jman68 said:
I dont have any problems with Will Smith. Personally I love his movies, if a new movie comes out and it has Will Smith in it i'm more likely to go and see it. But will smith as Capt. America. Sorry but its not racism to think a white actor should play a white superhero. Id love to see him as Luke Cage or Black Panther. As far as Samuel Jackson playing Nick Fury , Personally I think he could easily pull off that part.
and for all of you haters who are going to say not wanting Will Smith to play Cap is racist , Then you wont have a Problem with a movie Depicting the life of Martin Luther King Jr...We could have John Travolta play Martin Luther King Jr... and Tom Cruise playing Malcom X. Of course this movie would be set in the backdrop of sayy....Alaska.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 02:26:30 AM
Matt said:
Though you all might want to know.
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00018177.html
UPDATE 09/09/08: AICN has come out to debunk the 'Will Smith as Captain America' rumor. According to the site, Marvel Entertainment have never offered the "I Am Legend" star the part. In fact, they have not approached Smith or even had a conversation with the actor for "Captain America".
Posted 09/09/2008 at 05:05:10 AM
Primrose said:
All of you here are ranting if Will Smith…etc and none of you here cannot do a thing about this matter. Please keep ranting because you're all entertaining me.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 05:58:44 AM
Rootman said:
With those ears? Jeez, it would be like a black Alfred E Newman dressed as Cappy!
All kidding aside, I would like to see a WWII period film so having him black MIGHT be difficult, then again they could play up the fact that as a black man he "volunteered" for a procedure that turned him into Capt America. Would be twice as humiliating to the Nazi's too getting their ass whupped by a member of an "inferior" race.
Maybe they could actually make him Jesse Owens instead of Steve Trevor :)
Posted 09/09/2008 at 07:37:48 AM
nitehork said:
I don get this. How can anybody be even thinking that this could/ would work. How could racial politics be coming into this at all? Is Cap white or what? I don´t give a shit what colour skin a person has, never have never will, but Steve Rogers in the comics is white.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 08:47:21 AM
JWR said:
Okay... Would they cast Denzel Washington as Ben Stiller's Brother? No. WOuld they cast Jackie Chan as Jessica SImpson't Father? No. Would a Biography film about Martin Luther King cast Nicholas Cage as MLK? I don't think so. It's not about being racist at all, It's honoring a sense of reality. The character should be cast how it has been written, why change things just for the sake of change?
Posted 09/09/2008 at 10:18:42 AM
JWR said:
CouchGuy said:
What's the big deal? Marvel itself "recast" Nick Fury as a black man in the comics. I'll take Samuel L. Jackson over David Hasselhoff in that role any day, wouldn't you? Smith has the acting chops (see "I Am Legend"), & I have no trouble believing that the US might use black volunteers (or even non-volunteers) during WWII to test a dangerous serum that might well kill the test subject. The serum works on one man -- who is destined to be the only super-soldier of his kind. If he's a white, blond muscleman it is easy to wrap him in a flag and make him the symbol of America. How much more interesting to watch a black soldier show the world that heroism and the spirit of the American fighting man knows no color barrier. I want to see THAT movie!
Posted 09/08/2008 at 09:31:33 PM
Check Out the Ultimate Marvel Nick Fury on Wikipedia if you get the chance, and you'll see that He was Black.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 10:27:15 AM
* said:
I’ve no problem with a black actor playing Captain America so long as he plays him a white man. I don’t think Will Smith can pull that off.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 10:45:43 AM
Est said:
come on, seriously! there not gon have the fresh prince as captain america.. there gon get an australlian like they normally do to play an all american boy... Will is gon be cast as luke cage, thats what i think
Posted 09/09/2008 at 11:13:30 AM
Free Playstation 3 said:
I wouldn't mind Will Smith playing captain america. I love his acting and I think he'd fit the role well, considering it seems that he's done many roles like this before.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 02:28:48 PM
Mike said:
I have a great reason why Captain America wouldn't be black, in the story Captain America is a national hero in the early '40s. Does anyone really think the US would have had a black national hero in the early '40s? Sorry, America wasn't that evolved at that point.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 02:55:32 PM
Friginator said:
This conversation is repeating itself. Let it go, people. Nobody's racist. Will Smith is Black. The flag is part of our heritage. The End.
Posted 09/09/2008 at 03:45:33 PM
z06 said:
then maybe lets not do captain america.
the “correctness” of why a black man cannot play ww2 capt america just brings back the political incorrectness of that time.
should we also say he should be allowed to say jap or kraut because that what ww2 capt america would have said?
sad fact, nazi pows had more rights than blacks at the time.
also liked that comment mentioning nicolas cage since “he changed his name from Nicholas Coppola to Nicolas Cage early in his career. The assumed surname is inspired by Marvel Comics character Luke Cage, a streetwise superhero.”
Posted 09/09/2008 at 05:51:50 PM
David said:
I think people need to calm down. First of all, so what if he took the role, Will Smith is a good actor. He could do the role if he wanted to. But he won't because he knows who Cap is (Steve Rogers). He respects the character and won't throw fans off with the race change, even though that shouldn't be an issue. Another thing to realize (I'm coming at you as a Marvel Fan now), there was a Black Captain America. In the Marvel Universe his name was Isaiah Bradley. They restarted the Super soldier program after they lost the formula with Steve Rogers. Isaiah showed the same results and became the new Cap. He later became Patriot. His grandson Elijah Bradley took the mantle of Patriot and is part of the Young Avengers. As far as Will Smith playing a black Captain America, he can do it. Steve Rogers Cap, no I wouldn't have him do it. Isaiah Bradley Cap, yes, he definitely could fill the role. So everyone needs to calm the freak down.
Posted 09/10/2008 at 07:48:47 AM
Friginator said:
YOU CALM DOWN! IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO CALM DOWN, THEN DON'T KEEP UP SAYING REPETETIVE THINGS THAT KEEP THIS INANE, ALZHEIMERS-RIDDEN THREAD GOING! GAH! YOU HONESTLY MUST HAVE READ THE POSTS, YET YOU ONLY RESPOND TO THE FREAK-OUT ONES! SO NOW I'M FREAKING OUT! PLEASE READ! YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION, BUT YOUR SAME OPINION HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED BY FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE ALREADY! NOTHING MORE CAN POSSIBLY BE SAID ABOUT THIS WITHOUT FURTHER REDUNDANCY! THE CAPACITY FOR REPETITION ON THIS (DISPROVEN AND OUTDATED) RUMOR ASTOUNDS ME! WE GET IT!
IS THIS POST ANGRY ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS TO READ AND LISTEN TO?! IS IT?! I SWEAR I'M ABOUT TO HAVE A SEISURE JUST FROM TYPING IT! GAH!
Posted 09/10/2008 at 04:42:30 PM
DrPh0bius said:
Just for fun, lets forget the ridiculousness of a black Cap in WWII and just concede that to the fools who would offer this to Wil Smith
A major portion of what made Cap who he is can be directly traced to his personal crisis in coming to grips with defeating the Nazis while being the very thing the Nazis desired most. An arayan, blue eyed, blond haired Ubermensch!
Many times throughout the years he mentioned the time he killed the young Nazi, and when the kid looked at him, and saw the blue eyes and the blond hair peeking out from under his mask, that Cap was horrified that the kid, who had dark eyes and hair, smiled at being killed by the very ideal he fought for (thought the kid was not himself one of), because Cap beating him proved to the kid that the Nazi ideals were correct.
It was a moment that changed Cap forever, shaped him and drove him in his quest for equal justice for all people.
Posted 09/11/2008 at 12:32:40 PM
Friginator said:
The next person who comments on this post is a retard. Don't let them ruin your day with their astounding idiocy.
Posted 09/11/2008 at 02:00:17 PM
scott said:
I'm gonna comment just to piss you off dinkantor.
whether it is redundancy or not, EVERYONE has the right to voice their opinion, "free assembly" and all...
and to make this semi relevant. if you wish to stop people from allowing their voice heard you are like the early version of the Nazi party.
nerds/comic fans tend to be a little more adamant about sticking to the source material (whatever it may be, book,magazine, etc..)then anybody else, because we actually care about things, as opposed to a "who cares" attitude.
have a great weekend. hope you don't die of seisure by me posting. that would totally suck wind. though if you do, hope yer buried in a nice box.
Posted 09/12/2008 at 02:03:45 PM
Friginator said:
@scott
I'm not pissed off anymore. I've actually started to see this from a humorous point of view, and it is actually kind of funny. I'm just glad someone isn't ignoring me because they're too pissed off. BTW, I'm not sure what "dinkantor" means, but I'm going to assume it's something negative. By the way, I'm planning on being cremated, so you can go shove yer nice box.
Also, I resent being (indirectly) called a Nazi. I'm not keeping anyone from voicing their opinion. I'm just telling them that it's pointless, and that there's very little elso to add, and the rumor is disproven at this point.
...and have a nice weekend.
Posted 09/12/2008 at 02:25:05 PM
Blackspot said:
You've got to be kidding me. Do you folks really think anyone would call you racist for disagreeing with Will Smith being cast as a white character? Do you really think that? I'm black and I don't think Will should play Captain America. Jeez, no wonder the world thinks we're a country of idiots.
Posted 09/16/2008 at 09:22:07 PM
DML said:
sad that I have to come with this but...there is no such person as Steve Rogers. He is white because white people drew him that way. Marvel is now talking to a generation of kids who grew up watching John Stewart as Green Lantern. Is a 12 year old really going to trip at a Black Captain America? Really? Or will his Mom and DAD?
Also, who says that there could not have been a Black man with super powers in 1941 leading troops. Seriously? You CAN'T have a fantasy that rewrites history? It is more believable that a white woman with powers comes from Paradise Island, a predominately Black Island in the Caribbean? We have a LOOOONG way to go in this country.
Posted 09/17/2008 at 07:42:16 AM
Friginator said:
I love it when people who act like they're better than you refuse to read a few sentences that would save them the trouble in the first place. It really is funny watching you guys continue to fight over something that has long been disproven. And then when they try to win the argument by getting political? Sheer hilarious, redundant idiocy. I thought this discussion would have been over by now, but perhaps I just had too much faith in humanity to actually think people would stop making jackasses out of themselves.
Posted 09/18/2008 at 06:32:46 PM
ryetallon said:
i am a black man and i have read all of these comments about why will smith cant play captain america. and you honestly there is no reason that smith can play a brand new captain america with a brand new story line. but you are all as right as rain will smith cant play the 1st captain american from w.w.2 he cant play a blonde haired bule eyed steve rogers and they would have never picked a black man to give those powers to back then! and beside that in the comic books steve rogers is dead! (at lest for now) i dont think that any of you are being raceist. because i feel the same way as all of you. let smith play a new captain and let steve rogers R.I.P.!
Posted 09/21/2008 at 08:08:47 AM
ryetallon said:
i am a black man and i have read all of these comments about why will smith cant play captain america. and you honestly there is no reason that smith can play a brand new captain america with a brand new story line. but you are all as right as rain will smith cant play the 1st captain american from w.w.2 he cant play a blonde haired bule eyed steve rogers and they would have never picked a black man to give those powers to back then! and beside that in the comic books steve rogers is dead! (at lest for now) i dont think that any of you are being raceist. because i feel the same way as all of you. let smith play a new captain and let steve rogers R.I.P.!
Posted 09/21/2008 at 08:15:03 AM
ryetallon said:
i am a black man and i have read all of these comments about why will smith cant play captain america. and you honestly there is no reason that smith can play a brand new captain america with a brand new story line. but you are all as right as rain will smith cant play the 1st captain american from w.w.2 he cant play a blonde haired bule eyed steve rogers and they would have never picked a black man to give those powers to back then! and beside that in the comic books steve rogers is dead! (at lest for now) i dont think that any of you are being raceist. because i feel the same way as all of you. let smith play a new captain and let steve rogers R.I.P.!
Posted 09/21/2008 at 08:20:14 AM
john said:
i am a black man and i have read all of these comments about why will smith cant play captain america. and you honestly there is no reason that smith can play a brand new captain america with a brand new story line. but you are all as right as rain will smith cant play the 1st captain american from w.w.2 he cant play a blonde haired bule eyed steve rogers and they would have never picked a black man to give those powers to back then! and beside that in the comic books steve rogers is dead! (at lest for now) i dont think that any of you are being raceist. because i feel the same way as all of you. let smith play a new captain and let steve rogers R.I.P.!
Posted 09/21/2008 at 08:23:44 AM
Friginator said:
This discussion has either way to much testosterone or too little brain cells. Is it too much to ask for people to stop commenting? Why does EVERYONE feel the need to add their 2 cents?
Posted 09/23/2008 at 02:46:50 PM
Captain Britain said:
Whats wrong with you lot will smith proves hand over fist he can act, maybe its nothing to do with race but why cant he play steve rogers, its actors like will smith that show a good american role model and kids look up to him.
Is there anyone else who can play him? yes, but id rather see a black great actor play him then a pilled up wrestler like john cena.An id like to also say that people are saying the govermant back then wouldnt experiment on a black man are you kidding? they would probabaly start with the black men to experiment on, and yes black people were on the frontline in WW2
Captain America was a symbol of a great state of America and if will smith does it justice sighn him up
Posted 10/01/2008 at 04:39:57 AM
Captain Britain said:
Whats wrong with you lot will smith proves hand over fist he can act, maybe its nothing to do with race but why cant he play steve rogers, its actors like will smith that show a good american role model and kids look up to him.
Is there anyone else who can play him? yes, but id rather see a black great actor play him then a pilled up wrestler like john cena.An id like to also say that people are saying the govermant back then wouldnt experiment on a black man are you kidding? they would probabaly start with the black men to experiment on, and yes black people were on the frontline in WW2
Captain America was a symbol of a great state of America and if will smith does it justice sighn him up
Posted 10/01/2008 at 04:40:10 AM
Captain Britain said:
And plus the great stan want him to play it too
Posted 10/01/2008 at 04:52:00 AM
Captain Britain said:
And plus the great stan want him to play it too
Posted 10/01/2008 at 04:52:13 AM
Captain Britain said:
And plus the great stan want him to play it too
Posted 10/01/2008 at 04:52:13 AM
SonyLee said:
I just stumbled over this thread but as a Black man Who group up reading Marvel comics this whole Will Smith as a black Captain America is more than a bit disconcerting. I AM STILL PISSED ABOUT SGT. NICK FURY BEING BLACK!!! What the hell are they doing; nullifying my entire childhood?
Posted 10/19/2008 at 11:13:55 AM
rilibast said:
Okay I just want you guys to know that Cap is supposed to be the "everyman" paragon and represent what we as AMERICANS can be if we truly give our hearts to our country. Will Smith can play the everyman roll. We've seen it in a dozen films that he can do this.
Also by making him Cap you won't have to waste a stupid backstory on Falcon or any of the other lame black superheroes. As a caucasian I am proud to have Thor, Hulk, and Iron Man as white characters in the Marvel Universe. Sure you can say that Nick Fury is black, but really he's not an Avenger.
Now have said that Will Smith is one of the few African American actors who can play a black Steve Rogers who's not ghetto as hell and hates on white people with all of his statements. Will Smith's Steve Rogers would be against "the man" which we've seen in Civil War that Cap is clearly against that concept aswell.
So please my fellow comic fan Americans think about it. I mean it would be lovely to not have to deal with Falcon in our movie thus turning it into another Mortal Combat.
Remember that Captain America isn't white. He's all of us because he is America. Also remember that since race was a big issue in the 40's they'd be more likely to experiment on an African American than a caucasian anyway. If that doesn't convince you then you just plan suck.....
Posted 11/06/2008 at 05:55:29 PM
Chris said:
I read many of the post here, it seems to me that a afoul lot of the people that are really in to the comic book world, are deeply racist. I think that many of the readers see themselves as being the characters they see in these books, it happens that most of the readers are white, so if a white character that they are so invested in is turned black or another race, they see it as an insult on their sense of self.
Posted 12/09/2008 at 06:08:47 PM







