"Sometimes, I think the writers of Heroes were out of coffee when they wrote a scene. 'Write anything man. We've gotta make a beans run!'" -- @cathyccaughan
"Heroes is still on? Really? Seriously?" -- @TheKimSchneider
"Oh my god. I'm literally shaking with rage at how stupid Heroes was tonight." -- @ToplessRobot
These are just a few of the anti-Heroes sentiments that can be found on Twitter each time a new episode of NBC's once acclaimed superhero show airs. It hasn't always been this way -- NBC literally handed us a comic book on TV four years ago, and nerds and critics alike rejoiced. But after that one wonderful season, Heroes has squandered all of its nerdy good will with three seasons of some of the worst writing on television, combining boredom, one-dimensional characters, and total inconsistency in new but generally unwatchable ways. And yet, no matter how much it sucks, we keep watching the damn show. Alas, much like Heroes' "mysteries," the reasons why aren't really that mysterious. Now, with the last episode of season 4 -- and possibly the series finale as well -- airing tonight, here are seven. 7) We're NerdsHeroes relies heavily on geeky references and inside jokes. "Lolz they just made fun of Red Hulk!" "OMG they referenced the space-time continuum!!" So when you notice Peter's apartment number is the same as the address for Xavier's school or see that Kaito Nakamura's license plate is the same as the USS Enterprise registry number, that's a powerful enticement. And let's not forget the countless celebrity cameos from other sci-fi franchises that have appeared on the show. Besides the occasional drops in the bucket like Smallville or Big Bang Theory, geeks aren't normally catered to like Heroes does on the small screen.
6) Claire Bennet
5) Hot Actors
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4) Rubbernecking
3) Sylar
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2) Denial
It ain't just a river in Egypt folks. I know it's hard to think that far back but Heroes used to be good. Really. Season one had 14 million viewers a week! A faithful fan recently told me, "I feel like Heroes is an abusive spouse." Heroes promises it will stop being so horrible and you believe it because it says it cares about you. The creators say, "We've fired so-an-so!" or "We've hired so-and-so! We promise this season will be back to awesome!" But it's not and yet we find ourselves helplessly coming back for more. If you're ashamed to admit you still watch ("Heroes? Nah man, I stopped watching after Season 1."), blame yourself for the quality of the show ("Maybe I just don't get it.") or think Heroes will find its way back to its former glory, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee. One season of cool and three seasons of suck does not equal a show you should still be watching.
1) Future Hiro
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Comments
GCJ replied to Mount_Prion:
Totally agree. I can't stand Bleach now. I really don't even think the writers are trying and just make it all up week-to-week on the fly.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:54:04 AM
Nik replied to GCJ:
Dude, Naruto was way worse. I mean I haven't watched either in what seems like years so I could be wrong. But even the last time I read Naruto manga, it was painfully obvious the writer had no idea where i story was going, and just made it up as he went along. I assume even non filler bleach is heading the same way. When an IP becomes such a cash cow early in its life its probably hard to think of anything except "how long can I keep making this?"
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:19:27 AM
ShortCake replied to GCJ:
What do you mean?
It's in the middle of one of the best fights in the entire comic.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:35:33 AM
rickicker replied to ShortCake:
naruto has evolved from a charming coming-of-age story drenched in ninja-verse blood into just out and out blood. the current arc even starts going to the cliched "oh hay everybody, let's stop the madman who wants to start a world war and control the world". pffft! how original...
but this is a "heroes" thread, so i think we animenerds should quit the bitching right here.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:56:18 AM
ShortCake replied to rickicker:
I was referring to Bleach but didn't see the post that now follows above my first post.
I agree with your naruto sentiments.
As for Heroes I really wish they would have an undeniably objectively EVIL villain. Sylar from season 1 was a very potent threat that was necessary to overcome. There's not much going on now other than socialization problems.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 03:44:03 PM
GCJ replied to ShortCake:
Here's my issue with Bleach (and has always been my issue with Bleach) and in some part One Piece, too. They don't kill off characters. Do you realize how many times certain people in the Manga have been killed? There's no development of the characters, they just randomly power up more than some time before with no reasoning. They're basically DBZ-ing it. There are no limits in the world. It makes no sense. And no one dies because they've gotta be able to come back later for the same ridiculous battle with the same ridiculous nothing happening.
Now. That being said, I also agree that Naruto has reached a dry patch. More specifically Sasuke has just entered this I'm randomly going to be stronger, but I don't feel like the offenses in Naruto are nearly as egregious as Bleach. Characters die. They grow. Nartuo actually spends time training. The battles are more creative (Nartuo vs Pain was awesome). And there's a lot of different story lines and plot going on.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 06:14:32 PM
The Man With Two Brains said:
Sorry, I defended the show through season 3, but it lost me. Only #7 held any interest for me at the beginning of this season, and the terrible scripting ruined even that!
Heroes had great potential, and could've had an awesome myth arc, but they fucked up by abandoning the plot season 2 seemed to set up (despite its horrid pacing...), and the fact that they'll bring in and kill off characters for no good reason... fuck this shit!
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:08:54 AM
The Man With Two Brains replied to The Man With Two Brains:
Oh, also, Claire never held ANY appeal for me. She's attractive, but way too much of a bitch both in the show and in real life for me to be attracted to her! The female characters I liked were people like Eden and Daphne.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:11:06 AM
Yana replied to The Man With Two Brains:
It doesn't help that they keep bringing in blonde women, some of whom look creepily similar to Hayden Panettiere, like Lauren. Emma, Lauren, Vanessa, Lydia, did we really need four new blonde-haired white ladies this season, additionally to blonde Claire and blonde Tracy?
I'm a straight woman, but I have had girlcrushes on Monica and Maya, now THEY were cute/hot. Claire is bland and boring and I forgot what she looks like under the make-up.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:24:02 PM
Jill a.k.a. The Nerdy Bird replied to The Man With Two Brains:
I don't get it either honestly, but you should see the love I still saw for her coming out of Twitter last week.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:35:31 PM
Dread said:
Wife and I have skipped the past 3 or 4 episodes. Is Claire dead yet? Because that would be groovy.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:12:10 AM
Geiseric said:
6) Claire Bennet
Ugh. I'd list that pretty high among the reasing why I stopped watching Heroes.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:12:18 AM
GUMBERCULES! replied to Geiseric:
I'd hit that.....
.....on the back of the head with a lead pipe, maybe.....
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:46:00 AM
Dread replied to GUMBERCULES!:
Yet she'd heal and be given a new, mind-numbing plot.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:09:39 AM
Dave replied to Geiseric:
I just don't understand the obsession with Hayden Panettiere. It seems to me that if you think she's "hot" then you're a border-line pedophile, which really doesn't help you overcome your nerd image any.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:47:27 AM
I'm with you. I've never seen the appeal.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 12:21:00 PM
Monkey boy replied to Dave:
Ok I don't think she's anything special but borderline pedophile? Do you know what a pedophile is? It's someone sexually attracted to pre pubescent individuals. It's why many pedophiles don't distinguish their attraction between little boys and little girls. Hayden pennettiere is not only old enough to consent, but she is clearly not prepubescent by any means. She's an adult in the eyes of the law, how is that "borderline pedophile" if someone is attracted to her?
Posted 02/08/2010 at 12:58:08 PM
Dave replied to Monkey boy:
Relax, Webster. The joke was that she LOOKS prepubescent. Thanks for being joyless.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:47:11 PM
Monkey boy replied to Dave:
Sorry I didn't get the joke, but it seems more appropriate that the joke would have referenced her barely legal status, since I dunno what the prepubescent girls look like where you live, but in my neck of the woods they don't look like Hayden pennettiere.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 05:14:14 PM
RunnerX13 said:
7 reasons why you haven't stopped watching Heroes? I don't even know 7 people who are still watching Heroes, period.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:13:30 AM
slugpitcher replied to RunnerX13:
yeah, i was wondering who the "we" is in the title.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:32:52 PM
MrMacMan replied to slugpitcher:
Topless Robot has a live blog ever week.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 04:43:14 PM
Rob Apples said:
It seems to me that the hero with the most awesome power , seems do get dry humped by it whether it be he ends up way far in the past or dying from it for fuck sakes. i wanna see hiro do some shit normal people would do. Like locker rooms of the cheer leaders. Or just for shits and giggles moving people around so when they came to they'd be like, "how the fuck did i end up on this riding lawn mower with a midget dressed up like boba fett in my lap?"
AND KILL OFF SYLAR PLEASE!!! He's Spock now . You should rip the new Star Trek too.
But my point ultimately. Why will we watch it? Because there isnt shit else on until adultswim. Unless you like ncisi shows. Or reality shows.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:18:27 AM
Red Joker replied to Rob Apples:
Mate, you should definitely check out "Misfits". JUdging from your complaints that show is way better for you, and infinitely superior in general.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:55:29 AM
Greg said:
Best that I can tell this is the last site on the internet that even mentions this craptacular show anymore.
And I'm with Daniel Tosh when it comes to Hayden.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:27:08 AM
chudleycannonfodder replied to Wes Grogan:
Yeah, the AV Club reviews tend to be the highlight of my AVC week. It's so great to see people giving a serious review that completely tears open the show.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:11:28 AM
Msfeasance replied to Wes Grogan:
So does io9, but it's more "MY GOD, THE THINGS WATCHING THIS SHOW DOES TO MY LIVER."
Posted 02/08/2010 at 03:20:27 PM
BuncheB said:
I work as the copy writer at a Manhattan design studio and one of the things the company does is create style guides for potential licensors who want to manufacture products based on movie and TV properties. Since I'm the guy who has to write the stuff, a while back I was tasked with writing the style guide for HEROES and thought it would be a good idea to refresh myself on the series because I'd stopped watching it about halfway through season two. The company provided me with the first three seasons on DVD and I watched the entirety of it in sequence over a week. Let me tell you straight up that you cannot possibly appreciate just how badly HEROES screwed the pooch until you watch three seasons-worth over a few days, a marathon of sheer torture that all but grabs you by the shoulders, holds you immobile as its images pass across the screen, and shouts, "Look at it! LOOK AT IT!!! Gaze upon how much contempt for an audience we feel is composed entirely of microcephalics!"
And you just have to love how the series creator went public a while back regarding how bad the show sucked and how the writers were going to make concerted efforts to fix that problem. Apparently such steps were never taken...
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:38:28 AM
MattK said:
I can honestly say I don't watch Heroes anymore. Before the end of Volume 3, I'd had enough and walked away. I will say I'm glad I only bought the Season 1 DVD, because while the rest was complete garbage, I have the one season that had talent and class.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:51:02 AM
Deacon Blues said:
Speaking of #7, it's probably the only show on American television to ever make reference to Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. And even that isn't enough to get me to watch it, since the only character who comes off as remotely interesting always seems to be in a coma/dead/temporarily retarded/on a bus.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:56:49 AM
B said:
I'm no longer watching for Claire, I'm watching it for her college roommate.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:01:49 AM
You're better off watching Californication, then.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:07:32 AM
Sean said:
I stuck with the show during into Season 3. Sometime during that 3rd season I missed a show, then I missed another, then I worked through a couple episodes. Eventually Heroes just fell off my nerd plate for lack of interest. I don't miss it, and I only know it's still on because I read about it here.
But if I remember right, the luster of Heroes began being tarnished with the first season's finale. The entire season built up a lot of great drama and tension, but the payoff wasn't great. I remember wanting to see a massive superhero fight and getting just a smidge.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:02:58 AM
Amanduh replied to Sean:
I would agree with that. It's not just that the first season finale wound up feeling anticlimatic and boring and needed a better battle. It's that over the following summer, a lot of fans speculated online about the events of the finale and the different directions that they could go - were Peter, Nathan and Sylar actually alive? What would happen to Molly? Would Micah and his parents actually manage to form a functional family now that they're all facing up to being specials? What would happen to the Company, with Linderman, one of its major powers, gone? What direction would Claire's life go in, now that she was taking action and being more mature?
The problem is that after season 2 ended, the fans looked back and realized that the online speculations were far more interesting than what the writers actually served up for us. And I think that's what killed the show for a lot of people: realizing that the "professional" writers on the staff are lazy, and just keep recycling characters/plot points and ignoring their own canon.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:23:46 AM
nick said:
8) It's one of the only shows we can still watch without vomiting because heroes has never been the topic of a sick FFF.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:03:12 AM
nick said:
8) It's one of the only shows we can still watch without vomiting because heroes has never been the topic of a sick FFF.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:03:33 AM
AngieBatgirl replied to PJ:
Guess he missed the Nathan/Claire/Peter FFF..
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:07:53 PM
Furious George said:
Oddly, these are all reasons why I stopped watching Heroes.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:10:06 AM
Dax said:
Sorry, but #7 is why we all stopped watching. Yes, we're nerds, and thus intelligent. The show became so stupid after it's promising start it doesn't matter how many geeky references are made, bad quality is bad quality. The only reason it's even getting enough ratings nowadays to keep it on the air are from viewers who only care about numbers 6 & 5, thinking hotness=talent (i.e. Twilight fans).
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:13:58 AM
Jettwinlock said:
If you think about it they should have let Peter blow up newyork at least than Future Hiro would be around.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:16:06 AM
Frito replied to Jettwinlock:
Yeah Im not sure Future Hiro exists anymore. He is hanging around with Peter's Irish girlfriend in the "possible universe that no longer exist" section of the show.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:30:17 AM
Monkey boy said:
Who is this mysterious "we" who still watches heroes?
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:17:02 AM
Abraxas said:
if all it takes is lame references to nerdom to lure you in then it looks like you've been punk'ed by the future Hiro that never was.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:21:56 AM
Jessica said:
This show needs more Sendhil Ramamurthy,
yes, his character is annoying
yes, his accent isn't quite right
yes, he has the most retarded plots
but DAMN he is gorgeous man.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:31:09 AM
Yanay replied to Jessica:
Sendhil, yay!
I think he has had more screentime on PSYCH than he's had on Heroes this season. God knows why the writers are so vehemently against giving him just his original role or purpose or storyline back, instead of pretending his father was never killed by Sylar.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:26:18 PM
SkywalkThis said:
I have to admit I stopped watching part way through season 3. I just couldn't take it anymore - the writing was just terrible (in that very little that characters did seemed to make any sense).
There was something wrong from the very beginning with the extremely slow pacing of the show. Even back in Season 1 it was as if the writers went out of their way to "develop characters" and have absolutely nothing of significance happen to a cast of meta-humans. Then add in that myself and a bunch of friends who were drawn in with the excuse that "well, they must be saving the fx budget for the season finale, cause they sure aren't spending anything at the moment" expecting a lot of flash only to be met with one of the stupidest and most cheaply done season finales I can think of in a sci-fi show in recent history.
What I wanna know is why a major network show about superheroes couldn't afford a college kid with a copy of After-FX to add visuals more convincing than a damned Godzilla film.
PS. Never understood the obsession with Claire.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:42:55 AM
demoncat said:
reasons 1,2,3,4, and 6 are the only reason i have not finaly walked away from heroes but mostly Clair now being bi which means new love ones for her to wind up whacked that and tunning in to see if finaly Sylar says enough and puts heroes out of its misery.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 09:50:18 AM
Rattrap007 said:
Please. I stopped watching after the end of season 3. Gee let's hype up a huge fight scene then not show it because it is more thrilling and fun to watch someone else watch the fight.
I'm Sylar I hate my father. He killed my mother. I will kill my father. (episode later) I know now where my dad is. I'm going to drive there with an annoying kid. (episode later) kid is annoying me I should kill him...nah (episode later) still driving. Going to kill my father when I get there.. (episode later) I found my dad. He is pathetic. Bye dad I'm not going to kill you. see you father's day..
And sylar kills your son so what do you do? Shape change him in to the dead son and brainwash him into being him and then give the body of your beloved son to the authorities to do what ever with.. That is love right there.
sorry but the show is crap. First season was good, second was weak, third was horrid. It is DEAD to me. DEAD!!
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:00:36 AM
Barry replied to Rattrap007:
I will co-sign with Rattrap007 and add to his rant all the times Claire vacillated between loving her dad/hating her dad/not completely trusting her dad/not listening to her dad's sage advice as a HUNTER OF PEOPLE WITH SUPER POWERS/and realizing (after getting her ass handed to her) that dad was right all along.
It's so formulamatic and predictable that it's like watching the seasons pass. I could tell the "season" of Claire's relationship with Papa Bennet without any context at all. Claire stares defiantly and rolls her eyes during a stern lecture? Huh... must be in the "not listening" phase. A blood-soaked Claire emotionally embraces Papa Bennett? Must be the "dad was right" phase.
The writers certainly milked the dynamic of that father/daughter relationship for all it was worth... or maybe they just rolled a six-sided dice every week.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:05:04 PM
sykishi said:
I know its hard for alot of people but me and my friends have been loving heroes lately.
You just have to realize two things:
1.It will never be as good as season one, so stop trying to have it live up to it.
2.Stop trying to figure out all the plot holes.
After that the show is reasonably enjoyable and if you let your guard down you might even have fun.
I know when matt did his dads trick and locked sylar in his head i was cheering, and had a OH SHIT moment seeing him brick him up in the basement.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:23:29 AM
Amanduh replied to sykishi:
In other words, you can enjoy Heroes if you have no standards?...
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:26:41 AM
I don't get why people think this is a valid argument. I mean, people use plot holes, bad writing, and poor characterization to explain why they don't like the show. Of course ignoring those things would color their opinion differently... they wouldn't be watching the show, anymore!
People used this argument for Avatar, too, of course. But, for Avatar, it kind of works because the visuals are just that good and it's only 2 1/2. The same "turn off your mind" technique simply can't work over 20 hours. Ugh.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:48:52 AM
its not a argument its just simply a fact. You can either be spiteful and hateful and then the show will never live up to your standards OR you can just sit back and enjoy it.
Also this is a "super" hero show, and if you know anything about super hero story's is that plot holes,silly diolouge and boring characters are par for the course.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:10:38 PM
Nicnac said:
glad I figured all this out during season 2 and quit watching. The final episode of season 1 should have been a clue to all of you that Kring was off his rocker.
As to the cheerleader... how many other head cheerleaders do you know in real or fictional life who are 4 feet tall. Sorry, but it just doesn't happen...
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:26:15 AM
sykishi said:
Oh also the thing about the woman peter left in the future, if you go http://heroeswiki.com/Theory:Caitlin
theres some cool theory's on what can happen with her. If i remember right the current timeline hasent caught up with where she was left and its not impossible for the virus thing to happen.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:27:16 AM
Patracolos said:
Rob, you forgot the real reason that people are still watching the stupid show; The Topless Robot Live Blog of the insanely bad show.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:36:36 AM
Jill a.k.a. The Nerdy Bird replied to Patracolos:
If Rob had written this list, maybe he would have included that. :)
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:37:05 PM
willroyboy said:
Literally none of these points rings true with me. I could give a shit about claire and her giant head, or the fact that they have hot actors, EVERY GODDAMN SHOW ON TELEVISION HAS HOT ACTORS!!!
also the whole first season i was hooked until the finale when peter explodes of new york city. look it up people. A nuclear bomb is worse if it goes off in the air, not on the ground!!!
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:38:27 AM
RubyRoses replied to willroyboy:
the Heroes 'writers' care about science as much at Tarantino cares about spelling, or math. But obviously with QT it doesn't matter so much.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:46:50 AM
Jill a.k.a. The Nerdy Bird replied to willroyboy:
So...you are still watching the show but for OTHER reasons?
Posted 02/09/2010 at 12:42:55 AM
rickicker said:
you know, rob, i think you'd have a bigger list if the subject matter was reasons we SHOULD stop watching heroes. bleh!
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:58:24 AM
Jill a.k.a. The Nerdy Bird replied to rickicker:
Aw, come on, that would have been the longest list ever!
Posted 02/09/2010 at 12:45:25 AM
Peter Payne said:
"If I had a hit TV show, I'd run it into the ground."
- Bart Simpson
*So* glad I stopped at season 1.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:15:49 AM
DoctorSmashy said:
Season One will forever hold a place in my heart for making comic books cool. You could argue movies like X-Men or Spiderman helped bring do that, but TV is different from movies. You have to follow many different stories, you can have 'Heroes' nights with your friends, you're kept guessing with cliffhangers and twists. Turning a comic book into a TV show is not easy, but Season 1 pulled it off. Season 2 was meh. What little I saw of Season 3 seemed a big stepdown from Season 1, and I haven't even seen this current season yet. Sorry, Heroes.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:24:23 AM
RobP replied to DoctorSmashy :
Don't apologize to Heroes. The show hasn't done anything worthwhile since season 1 to make you feel guilty about not watching. The show should apologize to you.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:44:20 AM
dameruth said:
My roommate and I used to watch S2 just to see what new, inconsistent thing they'd do with Sylar's character, and how Zach Quinto would manage to roll with it and play whatever cracked-out new thing they threw at him (Sylar in an apron making pancakes still ranks up there as one of our fave WTF?? moments in recent TV). Also, the show did a pretty good job of catering to nerd girls by having lots of pretty men who tended to take their clothes off (in addition to the pretty women/girls for the nerd boys), which was pleasantly novel. But then we moved to a new apartment and were without cable or satellite for several months and lost track of it all; now we have cable again, I don't know that it's worth catching up again. There's only so far reasons #3, 4 and 5 can go . . .
Posted 02/08/2010 at 11:48:34 AM
Chris Sanders said:
I feel like the only bad season of Heroes was season 3... This current season has been pretty good.
It does suck how they dropped all the mysteries and how they kept killing off good characters though.
I'm likely the only person that still watches and defends this show.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 12:38:54 PM
I'd just like to say hello everyone. This is my first article/list for TR. (Hopefully not my last) You can read my blog at http://www.thenerdybird.com/ and follow me on twitter @TheNerdyBird.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:32:49 PM
TrapJaw said:
Well, from what I've surmised from the two people that I know that still watch Heroes, the primary reason for watching the show would seem to be bitching about it.
It's like they have Battered-Nerd Syndrome--the thing that they love keeps hurting them, but they can't leave it because they love it. And it will get better. Honest.
Me, I waited about a quarter of the way through the third season, until Heroes had passed out in a drunken stupor after having savagely beaten my brain with its stupidity, then I set fire to the bed that it was sleeping in.
There's still some scars, but I least I have my dignity.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:44:49 PM
S Hester (UK) said:
I'm still watching, way behind the US here in England.
Main reason for sticking with it - Sylar.
Zach Quinto is the best thing about the show, specifically his current run as Matt Parkman's evil half. Makes me laugh everytime he shows up.
As for Claire, kind of bored with the character now, doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
I miss Elle Bishop to be honest, she was a quality character.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 01:55:37 PM
"Starman" Matt Morrison said:
Good points, all. And I can agree completely with the battered spouse metaphor.
I just kept coming back - no matter how bad it got in Season 3 - in the hopes that THIS time it would get better. That THIS time it would be different. That THIS time it would change.
But it didn't.
I finally gave up in Season 4 after I ran the numbers and realized that there's no way the show's official timeline ads up.
The show's current writers are acting like three years have passed between Season 1 and Season 4 (Hiro's trips to save Charlie were referred to as "Three Years Ago") but if you map out all the time between Seasons, barely one year has passed, at most.
That was the killing point for me; the moment I realized that I cared more about making things make sense than the people writing the show and that I was able to find a big whopping mistake with only five minutes, a modicum of effort and an on-line episode guide.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:02:50 PM
AngieBatgirl said:
I'm sorry but Mohinder shouldn't be included in #5. I almost hurled when he was sexing up Maya. His character sucks big time and I wish they killed him off instead of Adam, Elle or even Nathan.
I still watch it. I can't believe how stupid some of my fave characters are now. Sylar is pretty much the only reason I even watch any more and if he goes good for good, I'm done with Heroes.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:05:22 PM
SafetyDance101 said:
I've never seen a single episode of Heroes, not even from the legendary first season, but I wanted to come and say that I'd bang Hayden Panettiere until my junk broke off and ran away. And I'm about as ashamed of that as I am about my loving upbringing. That is all.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 02:17:06 PM
NeverPlayedWoW said:
Wasn't there a painting of Hiro fighting a T-Rex in the first Season? I haven't really watched the other seasons, anyone know if that T-rex fight occurred yet?
Posted 02/08/2010 at 03:32:53 PM
EVula replied to NeverPlayedWoW:
There wasn't ever a fight. The painting prophecy was "fulfilled" with Hiro stole the Takezo Kensei sword from a museum and turned around to face a statue of a dinosaur.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 03:52:59 PM
Snoodle said:
"I feel like Heroes is an abusive spouse."
So right now "I appreciate you being...patient with me..." Peter is actually the personification of 'Heroes' and "Every time you pick up that sledgehammer I think you're going to hit me with it..." Sylar is actually the personification of the fanbase? Suddenly everything is clear to me.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 04:26:57 PM
Xenos said:
You people need help. Isn't there a twelve step program for getting off of bad TV shows? I know I shouldn't talk watching Lost, though I guess I'm not as obsessed as some fans. I used to watch Heroes. Sometimes I used to drin.. er.. watch Heroes socially with a group. Then I just had to sit down and realize, the show wasn't good. Even the first season I got on DVD wasn't that good and fell apart at the end. We keep tuning in hoping the show will turn around, but it never does. It just gets worse and worse.
Actually, yeah, even more than alcoholism, it's really is like an abusive relationship.
"No, Heroes will be better this next episode or season. He'll change. He won't hurt me anymore. My puddin loves me. It'll be better from now on. These plot holes? No, I just ran into a doorknob, it's nothing."
Posted 02/08/2010 at 05:57:32 PM
JazzyChazzy said:
The only reason I still watch Heroes is to be there for Snoodle as she's bound to watch it until it's over. Hold her hand while she goes through it. Comment on such things and the like.
And to hate on Meelo's face.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 06:28:36 PM
Jeremy said:
In case you haven't listened to it yet, Stephen Tobolowsky, the actor who played Bob Bishop, has an entertaining takedown of Heroes at his podcast. The Heroes section starts around 21:45.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/29/the-tobolowsky-files-ep-14-lost-in-act-1/
Posted 02/08/2010 at 06:51:24 PM
Evil Monkey Pope said:
When frelling Smallville is better than your show, it's time to pack it up.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:01:45 PM
Liz said:
"Each week, what's left of Heroes' audience tunes in to see if this is the week he'll finally come to his senses and murders them all. So far, nada. Sigh."
This is why I keep watching.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 08:11:52 PM
telezombie said:
I'm not familiar with this show you call heroes.
Posted 02/08/2010 at 10:49:51 PM
Hyuri said:
None of those 7's give me a convincing reason to open S2 on bluray I bought a long time ago.
Don't judge me.
My Monday on NBC ends when Chuck ends. So it has been for the past 2 seasons, so it shall be for a while.
Posted 02/09/2010 at 09:22:47 AM
choHIlqoq said:
That's writer's strike back in Ought-seven ruined Heroes. Guess what other craptacular bodge has been attributed to that Writer's strike?
That's right Bayformer's 2:Electric Boogaloo.
Those hacks Orci and Kurtzman attributed its ****tiness to a labor dispute.
You should know,I'm going to use whatever means I can to take a swipe at whoever is responsible for Bayformers...
Posted 02/09/2010 at 04:23:58 PM
r said:
I'm still watching. I just call it my soap opera and yell at the screen from time to time.
Posted 02/09/2010 at 09:22:27 PM
justgroovy said:
You know, my biggest beef has been the fact the Hiro has never gone back in time and "saved" the originator if the storyline through his graphic paintings - Isaac Mendez. Hiro was motivated and guided by those paintings and when they ended, it killed the momentum of his questing.
Of course, unless he did try to go back and save him and I was just in a coma due to storyline conflicts and totally missed it. I think I remember staring at the TV all the way through season 3, but have no memory of anything that took place. Am I alone?????
Posted 02/10/2010 at 12:08:10 PM
Glass said:
Heroes is nothing short of awful. Season 1 was great, everything after was pure crap. It's so obvious that the writers have no fucking clue what to do with the characters so they're just throwing everything at the wall and hoping it sticks. The characters' motivations keep shifting like they're bipolar. Sylar's good, now he's bad, now he's good, now he's bad. Clair hates her father, now she loves him, hates her father, now she loves him. It just keeps going on and on. And let's no forget that Peter still has an Irish girlfriend who's trapped in the future and he shows no intetion of trying to save her. Sylar should have been killed during Season 2, his character's outlived his usefulness.
Future Hiro is pretty much the reason why Heroes sucks now. A huge promise that had us all salivating that was never fulfilled in the slightest. It became obvious that the writers had no intention of including him in their convoluted plots.
All I can say is, FUCK YOU HEROES!
Posted 02/14/2010 at 11:08:37 AM
Bloublibo said:
Heroes is like booze and AA meetings. You go to the meetings and tell yourself over and over again that it's bad for you but you just can't stop yourself from grabbing the remote and watching it...or even from buying it; even if it does make you cry later on...
Fuckin' Heroes; making us all act like meth addicts.
Posted 02/15/2010 at 12:02:29 PM
allen_idaho said:
I am still a fan of Heroes. It's may not stand up to it's former glory but it still has it's moments.
This season, I thought the episode featuring Adrian Pasdar's final departure was good.
The scenes in which Peter was trapped with Sylar inside his head for what seemed like years were good.
But the main villain this season was a real letdown. The season finale was very anticlimactic.
But I still like the show.
Posted 02/16/2010 at 06:23:26 PM
Will Masters said:
I disagree with all those reasons, i've stopped watching Heroes. I got the papers, and i divorced that abusive mother fucker.
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