"Fans need to take a breath, and chill. They have not read the script. Our team is working closely with one of the original creators of Ninja Turtles to help expand and give a more complex back story. Relax, we are including everything that made you become fans in the first place. We are just building a richer world."you know what this says, do you, do you, this means he said the ALIEN-TURTLES bit as a means to get fan reaction to pay close attention to the project. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, YOU PEOPLE ARE GODDAMN GULLIBLE TO THIS GUY AND HOW HE TROLLS YOU WITH HIS DISINFORMATION, HE DID THE SAME GODDAMN SHIT WITH TRANSFORMERS, AND DESPITE ALL THE SHIT PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT THE MOVIES THEY STILL WENT AND SAW THEM BECAUSE OF ALL THE LEAKED INFORMATION AND LIES.
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"Fans need to take a breath, and chill. They have not read the script. Our team is working closely with one of the original creators of Ninja Turtles to help expand and give a more complex back story. Relax, we are including everything that made you become fans in the first place. We are just building a richer world."First of all, it's worth noting that Bay is not clarifying his previous comments, so all those people desperately pretending that Bay meant alien in the sense of merely foreign or alienated -- as if Bay could possibly have the capacity to use a word's lightly subtler definition -- no longer have that luxury. Alien is alien, and the next TMNT will star aliens.
Second, of course Michael Bay thinks that suddenly turning long-running, beloved characters into aliens somehow equals an "expanded and more complex back story." No, Michael, that's just different, and in this case, "different" also means "totally contradictory with the title of the series." No, I haven't read the script, but unless the script makes them not aliens, then you're not including everything that made people become fans in the first place, you're needlessly changing what made people become fans in the first place. Making the turtles aliens does not create a richer world, it simply messes with one of TMNT's few core concepts, and pisses fans off. And listen, I don't think any nerd will deny that TMNT is pretty fucking goofy, and you can make the Turtles serious or funny or violent or goofy and star mutants and ninjas and aliens and really, whatever. The sky's the fucking limit. About the only thing you can't do with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is make them non-teenaged, non-mutants, non-ninjas, or non-turtles. Which you've done. So, in summary, suck shit.
The best part about this is that like Transformers, I have no real fandom for TMNT; I just hate Bay's dickery on principle. God forbid Bay ever touches a franchise I really care about. You think I hate now? Jesus. Topless Robot would turn into nothing but me vomiting rage-blood through your monitors. (Via Coming Soon)
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As long as the "turtle-iens" have testicles and / or defecate on someone or hump somebody's leg, then I say "TURTLE POWER!" - er "ALIEN POWER!"
He also did say Megatron wasn't gonna be in Revenge of the Fallen so really, it's 50/50.
Changing the backstory to be something more contemporary could work but I don't trust Bay to pull it off. Unfortunately Hollywood is going to keep giving him more projects because his movies make money....which just feeds his over-inflated ego. Talk about a deal with the devil. He's able to get movies made that might otherwise not see the light of day but it comes at a cost.
I sometimes wonder if he's satisfied with how the Transformers movies turned out or if there's things he'd change. As much as I love seeing my favorite robots up on the big screen my enjoyment of those movies is marred by the terrible script and plot. I paid to see the first one but not the subsequent ones. I won't reward incompetence, especially from a man who seems to take no pride in his work. I'm not going to rush to see his TMNT remake opening night either. If it's not up to par I just won't go see it.
Michael Bay isn't done. I live-Tweeted the break-in to his compound and revealed his secret in-progress projects. And I may have accidentally set the place on fire. http://www.buzzfeed.com/hokiew...
Sigh. Guess I'll go back to my old standby Bayformers defense mechanism of pretending the movie doesn't exist in my pleasant little world. Also, we have zero calorie donuts here.
Ugh... Yes there orgin involves the Alien mutagen but making them Aliens... Can't he just go away. He doesn't give a shit OR understand the source material (quelle surprise).Get ready for a SWAT/Special unit ordere to find the Turtles (It's a Bay Movie), random shots of two Rats fucking in the sewer, Splinter talking like a 50's asian sterotype, April and/or Casey Jones being the main focus of the Movie. Various chase scenes in witch April/Casey will scream: No, no, no, no, no, no... UGH!
I hold an extremely vague hope that all the "alien" business means that the movie will feature the Ultroms or Triceritons.
In the original Eastman & Laird comics, the radioactive goo that transformed the turtles came from Krang like Aliens. Making TMNT into aliens is not that big of a stretch & no more as goofy or as far fetched as a rat watching a human practice martial arts & learning too PRIOR to getting oozed (which was Splinters first origin).
If you put it like that, then His Shittiness Michael Bay should've called it "Teenage Alien Ninja Not Turtles" and NOT "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles", due to the simple fact that the planned film has zero, count 'em, zero mutation and/or turtles. That's like calling the Avengers Movie "The Misadventures of Titty Sunrise and Her Army of Buttfucking Androids" when, surprise, none of those are in the fucking movie.
This is the very point that Rob is arguing up there, and what made me wished somebody drop a steamroller on Bay's smug head already.
Have you read the script? Seen the un-made movie? Can you confirm that the lead (turtle) characters have not undergone mutation? Or do not act like teens or fight like ninjas or are not green & do not look like turtles? Your argument is invalid.
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And it all comes back to
"You're wasting your breath, buddy. Either he is a troll, or just stupid. I'm thinking "stupid"."
Who is trolling now?
#Hypocricy
#ThenHeShallReplyWithMorePenisThings
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It's the year 2012.
Bucky & Jason Todd are alive
TMNT can accommodate an alien origin.
And gay eroticism is not even an insult to anyone anymore.
#UnlessRickyIsSecretlyGayAndIsProjectingHisFrustrationsSlashActualDesires
#FreudianSlips
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"I'm not doing anything but channel what you truly wanted to say. :)"
If you say so.
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I'm not doing anything but channel what you truly wanted to say. :)
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Do Grow up. You are so worked up over Ninja Turtles. Do you not see the irony? Of course you don't.
#pity
Yes, because Trolls & Stupid people bother to explain their logical, fact based points of views which happens to be different from yours. your point is completely valid and I am not as smart as I think I was. I shall cram back into the fetid carcasses of which I came crawling out of#ThisPersonIsReallySmartNoNotReally #RickyNamaraIsMyLordandMaster
And you sir, [s]are not![/s] [b]may cram a horse cock and various other objects of questionable safety into my many bodily orifices![/b] Haha You wrote that then deleted it. Scared of showing your true mental capacity? What dedication to craftmanship! Unlike my own sad attempts. Tsk tsk : )
And you sir, [s]are not![/s] [b]may cram a horse cock and various other objects of questionable safety into my many bodily orifices![/b] Haha
You wrote that then deleted it. Scared of showing your true mental capacity? Tsk tsk : )
And you sir, are not!may cram a horse cock and various other objects of questionable safety into my many bodily orifices! Haha
Yes, because Trolls & Stupid people bother to explain their logical, fact based points of views which happens to be different from yours.
#ThisPersonIsReallySmartNoNotReally
"Of which I'll grant you the 80s show varies a great deal but it was marketed to a younger audience."
And this Bay movie isn't?
And regarding your 4 cornerstone absolutes... ABSOLUTES, I'm sorry supreme authority on science fiction I was not informed that such literal rules existed once characters are named. I understand now very clearly! There can be no Thunder Cats then because they are neither terrestrial or made of thunder. They should be Non Thunder Carbon Based Cat-like Beings!
Speaking of Thunder Cats, I hope nobody changes their origin from doomed planet refuges to a more Lord Of The Rings, warring races sort of thing, that would be terrible! Origins of 1980s anthropomorphic characters are so well made & sacred!
Also, do rule out the possibility of a parallel world where fighting turtles exist that arrive on our planet via a dimensional gate & then get covered by a news reporter & labeled as some kind of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" Because such elements has never existed in the TMNT universe.
#NerdlLogicOrTheLackThereOf #MoreSarcasm
You're wasting your breath, buddy. Either he is a troll, or just stupid. I'm thinking "stupid".
You mean aside from the many, many volumes of TMNT canon comics? Aside from the TV shows? (Of which I'll grant you the 80s show varies a great deal but it was marketed to a younger audience.) For this to actually be a TMNT movie there are four cornerstone that are absolutes. 1. They must be teenagers.2. They must be mutants. 3. They must be ninjas. (Granted ninja turtles are kinda out there, but if they are aliens it becomes much, much worse. A ninja is sort of a culturally centered here on earth.) 4. They must be turtles. (For the love of god lets not get into the possibilities of space turtles. They are damned terrestrial turtles.)
If Bay makes them aliens what we'll likely end up with is Teenage Alien Ninja-Like Turtle-Like Beings. I just know that personally when this train wreck comes out I sure as hell won't be seeing it. Just like I didn't go to see TF2 or TF3 in theaters. My money may be an infinitesimally small amount compared to the overall sales but I'll be damned if I help contribute to more of Bay's explosionfests.
"Doesn't matter if the aliens can mutate or not. They were called mutant turtles because they were mutant turtles, not aliens that looked like turtles that could mutate."
Oh you must have access to some official TMNT bible where this is stated, truly Micheal Bay is in the wrong! And you are right... in a world where random animals are mutated into humanoids who fight ninja robots & brain shaped aliens... it is a disgusting violation of logic for turtles to be aliens! Thank you!
#sarcasm
What Will and falcione said. And if you cannot understand that simple concept after three people explained it to you, then you yourself are invalid.
William Brown is saying that "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" has always referred to the fact that they were EARTH turtles that MUTATED into NINJA TURTLES. If they're aliens that just LOOK like turtles, then they are NOT turtles, they're just turtle-like aliens. Doesn't matter if the aliens can mutate or not. They were called mutant turtles because they were mutant turtles, not aliens that looked like turtles that could mutate. YOUR argument is invalid, Avidliongoren.
Simply put you are saying that aliens cannot mutate & cannot be at the very least turtle like to qualify them for the TMNT name. Invalid argument.
Except Micheal Bay himself said "These Turtles are from an alien race." I.E. NOT FUCKING MUTANTS!!! That is what started these two days of ranting on Topless Robot. YOU CAN NOT CALL IT TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES IF THE ARE NOT MUTANTS!!! It is misleading, false advertising, and an insult to the source material. WHICH IS IN THE FUCKING TITLE OF THE PROPERTY!!!
I need a drink.
Re-posted from my FB:
"Michael Bay is producing a new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie wherein said TMNT are aliens. Commence massive nerdrage, calls for boycotts, and feverish attempts to summon an eldritch abomination to consume Bay's mind, body and soul".
Michael Bay doesn’t actually give a shit about directing - it’s all a rouse.My theory:- As a child, he was somehow tortured by fanboys. Maybe they made fun of his hat or something.- He feigned an interest in things like Transformers and TMNT and blowing shit up just to fit in.- Adulthood is reached and he realize: the entertainment industry is what the fanboys worship. The entertainment industry is what he must destroy.- He clawed his way to the top, directing commercial after commercial, cramming pointless helicopter cameo after pointless helicopter cameo into all he touched.- He blew things up. He made people believe that 360 camera turns were the shit. And then came his opportunity: Transformers.- The first one wasn’t terrible… it was enough to further gain the fanboys’ trust.- Then Transformers 2 happened.- But no, no one could stop the Bay Train now. It was too late.- His plan for revenge is coming to fruition.- He will not stop until every franchise the fanboys love is destroyed- The bloated, desecrated corpses of beloved characters surrounded by shitty dialogue and inexplicable robot testicles- Megan Fox pouting all over motorcycles and Shia LeBouf yelling or whatever it is he does in those movies- He will not stop- He will not sleep- He will continue to direct- ALL TREMBLE FANBOYS, AND DESPAIR- YOU SHALL WORSHIP AND PAY AND CONSUME AND WEEP- FOR BAY HAS UNLEASHED HIS UNHOLY PLAN UPON YE- BEWARE- BEWAAAAARE
........But they're the Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles. How in the heck does one explain the Mutant in the name if they're going to be aliens? I don't get it. My head hurts now. I liked it when a story made sense, and was not just made into a huge money-making franchise.......
Hell, the entire premise of the TMNT would never happen in real life, I know that. You know that. Anyone with a brain knows that. But the story, in that world and setting, made sense. Turning them into Aliens and expecting people to buy it as TMNT, makes absolutely no sense.
This is what people know them as. This is what people LIKE them as. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the original story. It's made plenty of money.
If it's not broken, DON'T Fix It.
This is what sets Michael Bay apart from George Lucas: when he senses that his fans are upset and whining, he tries to reassure them and gives them factual evidence that he isn't completely disregarding the source material, and is even WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL CREATORS. I'm sure that, if not for fans' bitching, we wouldn't have had Bayformers 3's plot based wholesale on several G1 episodes (although that movie was pretty bad, it could have been far worse). Yet people like Rob just keep whining and say "Bay is flat-out lying because Bay is an evil demonic liar from Hell" as their argument.
And I'd say that when he says "working with A original" creator, that really just means paying a nominal fee to and allowing them access to meetings and what-not. Plus, I think most of us know who that creator is and he's done the majority of the questionable things to TMNT. I'll defend his right to do w/e he wants with his property, but he's also shown himself to be complacent in just sitting back and letting anybody else run with it, as long as he gets paid. His wife's tits need upkeep.
If, at this point, you don't think that Bay can, does, and will simply indulge his OWN whims and fancies then I'd say you weren't paying attention. This is the man who wedges some kind of Wile E. Coyote flying suit action scene into a Transformers sequel simply because he saw it one day on TV and thought it was cool, not because, y'know, he's run out of ideas or anything...
I know the man isn't a good director, and that's why I'm not the biggest fan of his movies (except for Bayformers 1). I know that he indulges his own fantasies, and allowed travesties such as Bayformers Shockwave and Devastator to happen because he probably just didn't care. I'm saying that what sets him apart from George "Star-Wars-is-for-kids-and-Han-never-shot-first-and-I-love-Jar-Jar-and-you-must-love-him-too-and-accept-that-Han-never-shot-first-and-worship-me-and-love-my-Special-Editions-and-prequels" Lucas is that he actually has some HUMILITY, which most nerds fail to recognize. He knows that fans aren't happy with his work, but instead of trolling them like Lucas does, he tries to reassure them and makes some compromises even though he doesn't try to make something that'll please the fans completely rather than himself. (I'm sure Bayformers 3 would have been a lot worse and would have had even less to do with G1 if not for fans' dissatisfaction with Bayformers 2, for example.)



