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I guess I'm the only person who remembers that they used the same title as the comics for the Birds of Prey adaptation? Mind you, everything else was a mish-mash of Smallville tie-in and alternate continuities. And despite being pretty good (as its own thing, if you weren't irritated at the comics continuity violations), it only lasted a single season. But the Title was still the same! :P
You know, that's actually not terribly far off from one o the things they did in the comics. There was an "Elseworlds" comic, called "In Darkest Knight", naturally, where Bruce Wayne was offered the Green Lantern ring instead of Hal Jordan. Somehow, through some amazing domino effects (i.e. the BATMAN was a wee bit uncontrollable for the Guardians of Oa), it resulted in several other people getting GL rings. Including - yep - Wonder Woman. Considering the lack of female GLs from Earth (compared to males), that was kind of neat and I would TOTALLY watch the hell out of that. Heck, just give us a GL series with a female lead (or whose female love interest gains a ring of their own to save HIS ass at the end of the first season!)... I could write it, man. I never will, and neither will anybody who won't screw it up, but that is something that could work. Hard to do on a live-action TV budget though, especially on CW-level budgets (seriously, I'm not surprised they're going with "Arrow" and possibly WW - much easier on the SFX!) Mind you though, what was really broken about that "Darkest Knight" story... they also gave a ring to Superman. Yes, really. How broken is that!?
Having seen that steaming pile of dung that David E. Kelly created, still can't scrub that smell out of my brain, I watch in fear at what may come. I would love a good Wonder Woman show. I beg for a good wonder woman show, but I have no faith in DC or WB when it comes to Wonder Woman. The last time I really enjoyed a WW story was the graphic novel, The Hiketeia by Greg Rucka. WW was so clear and focused on who she was and what her beliefs were she was willing for fight Batman over them. A good WW tale should touch on myths, and there is a stranger in a strange land storyline available as long as they don't get stupid with it. WW is a creature of myth, that should be embraced. Bring in Greek myths, hell bring in other myths the more the marrier. Personally, I'd like to see the story told through several timelines. 1. Her at home learning and training. 2. WWII she could fight nazis, it's always fun to stomp nazis,. Her actions during WWII could be myths in their own right told by old soldiers to unbelieving family members. 3. Set in modern times she has returned for some reason. Events faced in modern times could mirror events from the past and offer reasons for her actions and beliefs. Whatever they do I want a strong, amazon warrior WW, not some whiney ass teenager. Since it will be on CW I'm sure I'll end up with Amazons meet Dawson Creek. Either way I'll always have Lynda Crater the one true Wonder Woman.
Martian Manhunter = Mars and Venus Wonder Twins = Two of a Kind Black Vulcan, Samurai, Apache Chief, and El Dorado = Oh, you thought we hired minorities? LOL!
Be glad it's comics. You can guess how Andre Norton felt about the Beast Master movie. Well, it has a couple underground carnivores, a cat, and an eagle. Same thing.
"Sunny Delight Beverage Company, a subsidiary of Proctor & Gamble, hereby notifies you that your use of the term 'Sun.D' may be considered an infringement of a registered trademark. Our legal department hereby requests that you cease and desist from its use in all formats."
S.W.A.M.P. - A teen drama about a botany student at a prep school who joins the Student Workers' Anti-Malice Patrol, a team of campus protectors. He meets a girl, and the three-season series focuses mainly on his efforts to clear algae from the school's pool, while struggling with his love for the girl (played by Selina Gomez). In the first season's finale, he falls into the pool after testing a new anti-algae chemical and gains the power to talk to plants. In the next 26 episodes, he uses his powers four times-- One time to urge a flower to bloom in time to give it to the girl he loves.
First of all, "sunny day" doesn't pop, or appeal to teens. Too many syllables, not hip enough. We'll call it "Sun.D" (and that's "sun-dot-dee".) Second of all, it's too brightly colored. Can we get some clouds in here? Maybe change that harsh yellow glow to a calm mauve? Tone it down a bit! Get rid of that big, bright yellow ball in the sky. It's just too obvious. Third, it's too silly. Adults won't want to participate in this! We'll need to make it a bit more dramatic and serious. Drop the volleyball, frisbee, frolicking in the field, and burying friends in the sand. Instead, let's have a girl crying in a barn, while a shirtless guy shakes his head slowly and walks away. Do it in slow motion. More crying! And there needs to be music to let the audience know that this isn't silly fun-- It's serious, adult business. Fourth, research shows cool teenagers don't like daytime, so we'll shoot primarily at night to avoid losing the audience's interest. Last, we can't really sink any major money into the talent, so we need to start looking for teen actors from daytime soaps, nickelodeon shows, and B movies to play the primary characters. Save the big bucks for the cameo appearance by a popular 80s-era TV star in a supporting role as a father, aunt, or some other cool-but-wise older person. Okay... NOW it's good enough to air on the CW, or possibly go straight to video! SUCCESS FOR WARNER EXECUTIVES ONCE AGAIN!!! Q'apla!
She'll be a college kid learning to cope with her powers (granted by a magic ring she found) while she and her BFF Etta discuss her relationship with hunky football hero Steve Trevor, and her inability to get in with the cool girls' clique. When she wants to turn to Wonder Woman, she raises the ring to the sky and says, "By the Power of Hera, I Am WONDER WOMAN!!!"
Warner Bros sucks at managing the DC characters- Especially on TV, where they dumb them down and soap them up for a teenage non-comic-fan crowd. They even stick to the same "No, this isn't a comic book tv show!" titles for non-comic fans: Smallville Arrow Amazon If they make a Plastic Man show, it will probably be called "O'Brian" and re-cast the characters as young adults who hang out in a cafe talking about their relationships. Look, Warner-- All you have to do is make the comic book into a TV show. Use the comic as a story board. Use the same background and story. Use a similar costume. Don't insert more romance while taking out all the superhuman action and fighting. Don't be afraid of your characters being themselves, because THAT's what made them popular all these years. You don't need to "re-invent" them for people who aren't interested in comics. You don't need to "tweak" them so they appeal to teens. You don't need to remove the comic book elements to make them seem more "serious", either. They're superheroes--- WE ACCEPT THEM AS THEY ARE. I swear, the best thing that could happen to DC would be if Warner Bros sold them to some other company. Warner executives don't know what to do with the DC comics characters, and we can expect decades more of gritty Batman movies, failtastic Wonder Woman pilots, and rehashed versions of the 1978 Superman. You know why Marvel is kicking your ass in the movie theaters and on TV, Warner/DC? It's because they actually have people whose job it is to make sure the characters on screen end up resembling the characters in the books. At Warner Bros, it seems like you have someone whose job it is to make sure that they DON'T resemble the characters we've been reading about for 50+ years. It's like Warner Bros is ashamed that the DC characters are superheroes from comic books.
Yet ANOTHER CW superhero show... Ecch! Not going to happen: Personally speaking, I don't like any CW show to begin with. Much less one written by somebody that, very obviously, doesn't know what a superhero show should be like to begin with.
i hope this goes well and has her wear the costume and learn to fly early on as a fu you to smallville is it weird that after reading batman comics and seeing many animated series and blockbuster movies when i think of batman many multiple actors come to mind and yet having never read a wonder woman comic or seen any of the old tv show when i think of wonder woman lynda carter comes to mind
It's depressing how many of those sound half-decent, if not for being soulless abominations cast from existing stories like a death mask. I'm just afraid of what happens when WB remembers that Swamp Thing belongs to DC...
For the sake of accuracy, I'd like to point out that the title isn't officially Amazon, it's just the name on the script (which is actually a good thing compared to David E. Kelly's non mythological version). There is also not a whole lot that indicates it's actually going to be comparable to Smallville; all that Vulture officially reported was that it was starting with the origin, their comparisons to Smallville were totally speculative. All we really know for certain is that it starts at the origin (we have no idea how accurately) and that Allan Heiberg (who has already written a pretty good starting point for new readers for Wonder Woman in the comics, until DC screwed it all up with Amazons Attack) is writing the script. There's plenty of room for this to go wrong or be scrapped totally, but so far I'm not seeing bad news. That said, I still stand by my belief that the ultimate Wonder Woman show would be an animated series co created by Gail Simone and Lauren Faust.
Ah, I'm back ... let me just grab some toilet paper... (wipe, wipe, wipe) . okay...I don't see how there could be anyway such a show would not be campish. There really is no way to do a dark gritty wonderwoman reboot IMHO.
I'll respond after I finish masturbating to the caption picture...give me about 25 seconds.
- Tress - Young woman avenges her parents' mafia-related death - Spec - Brooding guy in a green hoodie investigates the supernatural. - Fate - Slightly less brooding guy in a gold hoodie with an interest in Egyptology investigates the supernatural. - Quest - Journalist in a fedora investigates crimes, which may or may not be supernatural. - Titans - Group of teen ingenues or prodigies or whatever band together to create drama, also fight evil...probably some bald white guy. There's Raven, Cy, Kori, Gar and Rich (Don't call him Dick!), later Cassie learn about special abilities they possess and dark secrets from their past. Hey, worked for the Secret Circle...oh, right...it didn't.
What the fuck is up with all these shit filled one word titles for dc's tv shows? Smalleville, Arrow, Amazon... Plasticman show is going to be called Rubbers Animalman = The Growling Batman = Will and Grace JLA = MEANWHILE Solomon Grundy = Mondays Green Lantern = Pilot Time with Dickey Horowitz Guy Gardner = Awesome Douche
Well.. they made a Batman movie that was afraid to call Catwoman by her name and Robin was a grown mishmash of the three that had Robin as his legal name as a "What did you expect? Yellow spandex?" reference to fans which was almost more an insult than an Easter egg. You viewers and comic nerds at home can ook forward to DC Comics as we continue to deny we make actual superheroes with great shows like: - Animal- about animal rights activist Buddy Baker that can sense animals and goes around the country fighting an evil fur company. He falls in love with the daughter of the evil president who wants to stop her father's empire. - Lantern - About a young test pilot trying to prove himself. In the either season series finale he finds an alien ring. - Blue and Gold - A football coach who claims to be from the future helps a young mexican teen who has a strange mark on his back and hears voices. Forget that silly ep of Smallville, neither of them wear costumes or anything silly like that. It focuses on Jaimie in high school doing.. whatever it is them Latinos do.. we need to outreach to that market.. maybe he makes tacos in a food truck or something - Hawk - Egyptologist and former special forces soldier Chuck Hall finds an order of terrorists in Egypt trying to bring down America. He dawns a secret US military flight suit (a small jetpack with slight fins and a golden helment) designed for HALO jumps and resumes his old call sign of The Hawk to stop this menace before they attack America. - Sand - Wesley Dodds is an anesthesiologist who is out to stop the corruption in his hospital. - Dare - Follow the adventures of a blink lawyer and his wacky sidekick.. as they solve legal cases like a daredevil. ... Wait.. what do you mean that one's not ours?!
Well.. if it's anything like Allan Heinberg's Wonder Woman reboot run.. I guess we'll get three episodes.. a few week hiatus.. then six months later we finally get a follow up TV movie. Okay.. to be fair.. I doubht Heinberg was totally at fault. Though, like Young Avengers, the better paying TV and movie gigs distracted him. NY Times Best Selling author Jodi Picoult could have brought in tons of female readers.. but DC decided to be a bunch of dickish good old boys and screwed over her run in favor of their silly game of smashing action figures together in a crossover that not only didn't make much sense with established characters, but also made the female empowered Amazons and evil evil force. Of course the mini series was written by a male comic scribe and editors with seemingly little to no input from Piccolt who is an author who sells books in the larger market with sales that eclipse any sales DC put out, never mind that she has a huge female following that all were potential new WW comic readers. Then, of course, this would happen in their next Wonder Woman reboot too with New 52 Amazon origins taking this back to their core and not just some crazy mind control plot. To say nothing of the mini-reboot with JMS that kicked Gail Simone off the book just as she was hitting a stride. To say nothing that Heinberg's Wonder Woman reboot in the first place kicked Greg Rucka's wonderful run and demolished his lore in favor of a reboot in 2006, the first of many in the next five years. There was nothing wrong with the character and the story... except that DC had no idea how to sell her. Shit. DC can't even launch a proper Wonder Woman in their books. I have zero faith they can alongside the CW. Though somehow the CW Arrow is giving me a better Green Arrow, Black Canary, Huntress and Kate Spencer Manhunter than the New52. Then again, two of those characters don't even exist as far as we know and others are neigh unrecognizable, so as terrible as the CW makes them, they'll still be better.
"Amazon?" Really? It just continues to prove that main problem WB has. They are afraid of their comic book characters being comic book characters.
Not sure what to think. I have high hopes for Arrow (other then losing the green), and they might follow that set of ideas it could work. Or it could be a stereotypical CW show with "wonder woman" in it
Looking at that pic, I don't suppose it makes sense to just copy that. I.E. actress in WW's outfit busting crimes.
If she breaks into a warehouse and starts murdering people I'll watch it. Also that picture of Lynda Carter is awesome, I love her.
(sigh) When I read this news yesterday it gave me slight hope that something good might come out of this, but now you have reminded me that indeed this is DC and Warner Bros and Wonder Woman we are talking about, they have been screwing this up for years. Why would they start doing intelligent creative things now?
so what would it mean if it were a smallville type show set in the amazon? does that mean she remains a clay golem until the very last episode (10 years later)? or maybe she's got to wear some funny boots until she's fully initiated?
Heinberg didn't create The OC, he was just a writer/producer for it. He did also write a much-delayed Wonder Woman arc too though.
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